Hulk Hogan, RIP!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, welcome back to Lowbrow, the show that is finding its bearings. We talk about comic books and wrestling, and sometimes Chris emerges from his dumpster to join us. I am your host. He's got a Superman sticker. Very cool. Very cool. At least it's not an embarrassing popcorn bucket this week. Anyway, I'm your host, King Luke. You know, that's Old Norse for Daniel Sokoloff. With me are my good friends Greg and Chris. How you guys doing? [00:00:24] Speaker B: Super. Fantastic. [00:00:26] Speaker A: Yeah, so fantastic. Just like. Just like the Hulkster Fantastic Four. Speaking of which, you know, we lost. We lost a real legend this week. You know, he picked the worst week of all to die right after someone that people actually still like, died. Ozzy Osbourne died. And then a day later or so, we lost Hulk Hogan. Everyone's still like, oh, no. Ozzy died. And then also the Hulkster died. [00:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Like I was telling you last night, at least if Hulk had died first, there could have been, like, a day where we, you know, it wasn't overshadowed. But, no, it had to happen after. So it's like, no. [00:01:03] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a tough spot to die in. Yeah, it's never a good time to die, but that's to follow, as they say. [00:01:14] Speaker A: Well, you know, I mean, maybe. Maybe. What's his name? The maybe Todd Phillips, you know, would have liked to have died after he directed Joker, too. He was, like, hiding after that movie came out. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Has anyone heard from Todd? Is he still alive? Do we know that he's alive? He didn't hang himself in his bunker. [00:01:32] Speaker A: I think the WB executives ate him or something. [00:01:35] Speaker B: You know, someone contact Todd. Is he alive? [00:01:39] Speaker A: Todd. Todd. Call this. Podcast operators are standing by. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Raise your hand if you're being held hostage. Todd, are you all right? [00:01:46] Speaker A: Did anyone see Joker, too? Or were you? [00:01:48] Speaker C: I did the one with Lady Gaga. [00:01:51] Speaker A: You saw that? [00:01:51] Speaker B: You saw it? [00:01:53] Speaker C: Well, on demand. [00:01:55] Speaker B: Why. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Why wouldn't go to Peter? I mean, it wasn't good. It was like you, like, musical dragged with that. The first one with Joaquin Phoenix, I mean, he was in both, but. Yeah, the first one was just. I thought that was pretty good. I. I still will say Heath Ledger was the best joker. Nobody's ever going to convince me otherwise. But yeah, the set. The second Joker was just. It was too much, like, would you say was interesting sense to. It was interesting, but. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:27] Speaker B: Okay. [00:02:28] Speaker C: Just. [00:02:28] Speaker B: I. I disagree. [00:02:29] Speaker C: It's like, it was interesting, but not a good interesting. [00:02:35] Speaker A: You know, I. I salute Todd Phillips for giving the finger to the studio, for forcing him to make a movie. He didn't want. Want to watch. I don't need to see that middle finger. That's fine. My co host, Adrian, loved it. She was like, daniel, you have to. I'm like, nope, nope, nope. You. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Is she trolling? [00:02:48] Speaker A: No, no, it's what. [00:02:50] Speaker B: I was like, is she trolling you? [00:02:52] Speaker A: No. She's got. She's got interesting taste. I mean, you know, she's a character. I. I love her very much. You know, she's like. It's a middle finger draped in glitter and sequins. I'm like, I don't need to see that. That sounds like something I don't need to see. And I proceeded to never watch it. So, you know. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Greg, Greg. So you saw the whole. No, Greg. You saw the whole thing. [00:03:13] Speaker A: So. [00:03:15] Speaker B: How did you feel at the end? We haven't been following the real Joker. Yeah, you remember. So, like, it's. Yeah, yeah. How did you feel about that? [00:03:23] Speaker C: You. You actually saw it, Chris? [00:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw it in theaters. [00:03:27] Speaker A: We all saw that movie. It's great. We all love it. All right. [00:03:30] Speaker B: I'm talking about two Fully Ado. Fully Ado. Fully. I do so understand that. He doesn't understand. So at the end, they show you that we've been following the wrong Joker. There's another one? [00:03:42] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Okay, that's the thing that pissed a lot of people off, myself included. [00:03:48] Speaker A: There will not be a third one. It's. It's over. It's done. We're done with that. It'll never happen. [00:03:54] Speaker B: Todd is hanging from a broom closet somewhere. [00:03:58] Speaker C: It was a different inmate that was laughing at him when they. When he shanked Arthur. Right. [00:04:03] Speaker A: We didn't see it, but we know that happened. Yeah. So. [00:04:06] Speaker C: All right. [00:04:06] Speaker A: It's all getting cut, guys. So, Chris, as someone who, you know, watches less wrestling than anyone here, what are your thoughts on the Hulkster? [00:04:14] Speaker B: I really don't. Like, like, like, I, I. It's not that I, I believe it. Like, people are telling me all these things about him as a person. I know nothing about him as a person. I barely know anything about him as a wrestler. I've seen a few clips from Suburban Commando. Like, I, I don't know anything, really. I know he's Hulkamania or whatever. And, like, well, he's not the. He's not the snap into a Slim Jim guy. Right. That's the other guy. I don't know. [00:04:35] Speaker A: No, I don't know anything. Yeah, you should know Macho Man. He was in Spider Man. [00:04:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Macho Man. Didn't Hulk ever do a commercial with Slim Jim Ors? I don't know. I don't know anything. [00:04:48] Speaker A: I don't know. That was Macho Man's thing. [00:04:51] Speaker C: He's on a beer thing. [00:04:53] Speaker A: That was Macho Man's thing. So, like, when Jay USO does this, he's doing Macho Man? [00:04:59] Speaker B: Doing Macho man, yeah. Why. Why couldn't Hulk play the Hulk? He had the muscles. He could have played the Hulk. [00:05:05] Speaker A: That's a good question. I'm waiting for the WWE to, you know, give. Give a statement on this. Like, why the. Did he play the Hulk? [00:05:12] Speaker C: How does he. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Actually, they won't return my calls. [00:05:15] Speaker C: I never. I never thought about it. But how did he get that nickname Hulk Hogan? I mean, he looks like a Hulk in the heyday. Yeah, I guess. [00:05:23] Speaker A: Like, how did Rey Mysterio get that name, bro? Did he steal it? Did he beat up Mysterio in an alleyway? [00:05:28] Speaker C: It makes sense. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Took his helmet. [00:05:30] Speaker A: No, no, no. Mysterio is a Spider man villain. Greg. Welcome to lowbrow. [00:05:40] Speaker B: We occasionally meet in the middle. We're all just kind of in our. Spiraling in our corners. And you know what's the same broken clocks, right, Twice a day. [00:05:48] Speaker A: I'm the one with his foot in both worlds. This was my terrible idea to bring two disparate fandoms together. [00:05:55] Speaker B: Greg, just watch. Just watch the dancing, Megan. Just watch the dancing, Megan. But he can't see, Michael. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Hulk Hogan got his name. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm curious. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Why. Why did Hulk Hogan. This is gonna be the most embarrassing Google ever. Because it's gonna say because he is big. Like the Hulk. Get the name Hulk. I mean, you know, obviously, she Hulk gave birth to him, right? So, actually, okay, there was a. There was an older wrestler called Ed. Hulk Hogan. [00:06:20] Speaker C: Interesting. [00:06:21] Speaker A: They called him Hulk because, you know, he was big. Like, you know, the Hulk. The Incredible Hulk, you know. [00:06:26] Speaker C: So it did all revolve around the Incredible Hulk at the end of the day? [00:06:30] Speaker A: Well, I always figured it did. I mean, what else is the Hulk? [00:06:32] Speaker C: I mean, it makes sense. See? Wow, we really are having comic books meat wrestling here. [00:06:37] Speaker A: I know. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it? Well, so, Chris, you know, you've seen Gremlins, too. The Hulksters in that, right? [00:06:45] Speaker B: Again, my knowledge is very, very, very limited. Was he. I'll ask you, was he a good wrestler? I don't know anything. Like, did he have a good track record or whatever Was. [00:06:54] Speaker C: All right, so Hulk Hogan. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Hogan was great. Hulk Hogan was a very good wrestler. Really good on the Mic, brother, You know? Yeah. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Come here. [00:07:03] Speaker A: And Hook. [00:07:05] Speaker B: I would give you the impression I liked his personality. I don't know. Or his Persona, if you will. Again, I don't know what he was like in real life. [00:07:12] Speaker A: All right, Chris, have you seen Gremlins, too? [00:07:14] Speaker B: Forever ago. Yeah. [00:07:16] Speaker A: Are you kidding me? [00:07:19] Speaker B: We watched the first one. We don't watch the second one very often. We watch the first one multiple times a movie night. [00:07:27] Speaker C: I've only seen the first one. Not the. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Holy. All right, whatever. [00:07:32] Speaker B: We just can't be in the middle. Why can't you just meet me in the middle? [00:07:37] Speaker A: All right, so there's a. There's a part of Gremlins, too, where the movie loses its. And the Gremlins eat the film. And the Hulkster sitting in the movie theater goes, what's going on here? Hulkamania was watching that movie. And the Gremlins come out. He's like, oh, you want to go, brother? Ah, they eat it. [00:07:50] Speaker C: All right, Greg, I gotta see it now. Just for that, let's. [00:07:54] Speaker B: Let's do it. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Watch it. It's Gremlins. It's Gremlins, too. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Sounds pretty good. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Do a movie commentary. [00:07:59] Speaker B: We should do a movie commentary. Yes. Or just in general. Samurai Cop. Let's do a commentary for Samurai Cop. [00:08:06] Speaker A: I don't know about that one. [00:08:07] Speaker B: I don't know. Happy birthday to that one. [00:08:11] Speaker A: All right, Greg, tell us about the Hulkster. [00:08:13] Speaker C: All right, so Hulkster, to me, the most iconic moment with him was WrestleMania 3, when he body slammed Andre the Giant, his arch rival. That was pretty cool. Yeah. You could also say the first time he won the WWF at the time. Sorry, WWE, but WWF at the time, I think it was 1984 against the Iron Sheep. But yeah, for sure. Doing the body slam to Andre The Giant at WrestleMania 3, the biggest WrestleMania. Crazy crowd at the time, I think it was like 93, 000 plus. I have no idea what current WrestleMania attendance is. It's probably way higher. [00:08:54] Speaker A: I would have said, oh, yeah, are you kidding? [00:08:56] Speaker C: But different world. Yeah, that. That. That's insane. To be able to even pick up that guy is ridiculous. Andre the Giant, especially back then, Andre. [00:09:06] Speaker A: The Giant was like, what, 7:1 or something? 7:2. [00:09:10] Speaker C: Yeah. I have no. [00:09:11] Speaker B: How did he get his nickname? How do you get his nickname? [00:09:16] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Let's Google it, Chris. Giant. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Better Google it. Yeah, but ask Grab. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Better Google it. [00:09:22] Speaker A: No, Hulk Hogan himself, I think, was like, 6:1, and Andre the Giant was taller than him. So, you know. [00:09:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll look it up now. [00:09:32] Speaker B: He's actually a reference to Giant, man. [00:09:34] Speaker C: Yeah. He was 74 and he weighed 520 pounds. That's insane. [00:09:41] Speaker A: I love Andre the Giant. Like, you know, Hulk Hogan. So from where I'm sitting, Hulk Hogan, to me, he just typified like the American celebrity. Like he was a tall, muscle bound weirdo with. With the blonde hair and the blue eyes. [00:09:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:56] Speaker A: He had had a sex tape. He had a bunch of public uses of the N word. He supported Donald Trump. And I'm just like, that's middle America right there. Like, yeah. What else to tell you? He had a light beer that sucked like that. [00:10:07] Speaker C: I. Oh yeah, that is totally middle. [00:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, come on. Like. Like you could say whatever you want about him. And I do say whatever I want about him. I think he was a sack of shit. [00:10:16] Speaker C: But like, that's what Bret Hart says too. He literally said that. [00:10:19] Speaker B: I believe you. I just. I don't know anything. I believe you. [00:10:22] Speaker A: It's true. If you look into him like for even for like a second, like over the years, just like he had a reality show that sucked. Like, it's Hulk Hogan. You. You could say whatever you want about him. He's undoubtedly an American. Like, he's American as. He's as American as apple pie. He's as American as. As a bandit Keith. The M16. I was going to say the M16, but yeah, it's Bandit Keith. You know, a Japanese anime character. Yeah, you know. [00:10:46] Speaker C: Oh, man. I got a good follow up question to how American he is. More American than Chad Gable and Kurt Angle. [00:10:55] Speaker A: Do they come out to the song real American? [00:10:57] Speaker C: No, they don't. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Then they are not real Americans, man. [00:11:01] Speaker C: El grande americano is going to be crying tonight after he. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Is he as American as well? [00:11:08] Speaker A: He's an immigrant. He's an immigrant. Fuck that. [00:11:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy. He's an alien American. Throw it all out. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Speaking of el grande americano, do we have a third one? Was there a third? He was speaking Spanish. Like, what the hell's going on? [00:11:19] Speaker C: I know. I still think it's Ludwig Kaiser, like as the second, but he was. Ludwig Kaiser is actually a very good, like, personality. He dates tiffy time. That's crazy. But I think apparently he's like funny as hell behind the scenes. I think he's very adaptable. So he probably was just speaking. Probably looked up some Spanish and was speaking it and he. He had the accent somewhat down, but if you listen carefully, you can hear a German tinge to it. [00:11:47] Speaker A: German tinge. Yeah. So, Greg, fair enough. We. We'll get. We'll get to that in a bit. But, Greg, let's just. Let's wrap up our. Our. Our conversation about the Hulkster. How did you feel about Hulk Hogan growing up? Did you like him? [00:12:00] Speaker C: I was. Okay. I'm gonna. This is gonna be unpopular opinion. I won't sugarcoat it since even though it's like we're doing a little tribute to him. I mean, I guess I like. [00:12:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll do a real memorial later. [00:12:12] Speaker C: You know, I guess I liked him, but to be honest, he wasn't one of my favorites. I was mostly indifferent to him. I was obsessed with his Real American song, though. That would be. That was pretty cool. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Sure. [00:12:26] Speaker C: But it's interesting. I did not watch him, really, in his heyday. I watched him closer to the Ruthless Aggression Era. I think he was with WCW for a lot of the Attitude Era, if I recall correctly. That's Goldberg beat him during. [00:12:48] Speaker B: You all sound like Pokemon during your attacks. [00:12:51] Speaker A: Well, you. [00:12:51] Speaker C: You would like Ruse of Chris, because Goldberg, you. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Solar Beam. Rus. [00:12:55] Speaker A: I guess you would love Rusev because it comes out like Zongief. His music sounds like Zongief. And he comes out and does this epic stomp, and he goes and he yells. [00:13:05] Speaker C: He yells Rusev sometimes. [00:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. He talks like Zongief or Zongief. Says his name all the time. He looks like him. He's built. Yeah, built like. Like a Street Fighter character. [00:13:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:15] Speaker C: But. Yeah, okay, Getting back to the Hulkster. We all love Rusive, but getting back to the. [00:13:19] Speaker A: Nobody wants to talk about Hulk Hogan. [00:13:21] Speaker C: Getting back to the Hulkster. I. So most of the time I watched him, it was Ruthless Aggression Era, so I didn't see him, like, in his super heyday. It was like, around the time he was trying to retire and. Are you familiar with the nwo? [00:13:38] Speaker A: You're asking, Chris? [00:13:39] Speaker C: No. No. [00:13:40] Speaker B: I have no idea what that is. [00:13:41] Speaker A: That was. That was. Hulk Hogan's little group is the New World Order. Of course. [00:13:44] Speaker C: Yeah. The New World Order with Kevin Nash and Scott hall and all those guys. Yeah, yeah. It's. I guess it was like kind of a WCW invasion. There were tinges of that, too. But, yeah, I. I know him mostly from that. I thought that group was cool. Like, he had, like. It was neat to see him in the, you know, like, darker attire because he's usually red and yellow. But, yeah, I. He was a cool character. But, like, to me, yeah, he wasn't. I guess, like, my holy trinity of wrestling is obviously like, the Undertaker. Stone Cold. And then, sadly, I Don't really want to put him there, but I feel like you gotta put him there. The Rock. [00:14:28] Speaker A: The Rock. Okay. [00:14:29] Speaker C: Yeah, just. Just. Because, like, I'm going by the three wrestlers, like, if you have to kind of know, at least from the Attitude era. [00:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah, but I thought this was your holy. Okay, okay, okay, fine. Yeah, sure. [00:14:40] Speaker C: But yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, the Hulkster was cool, but like, he just. I don't know. He wasn't as cool as the Undertaker. Not even close. Let's just leave it at that. But I liked him, but I was mostly indifferent. [00:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I mean, it's funny because, like, when I was little, I really liked Macho Man, Randy Savage. The Undertaker is. I mean, he's the coolest. I mean, come on. Undertaker. But Hulk Hogan was up there for me. I thought he was amazing, you know, he was Hulk. He was Hulk Hogan. I don't know, he'd get on there, be like, listen, my brother, you know. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Pokemonia Okamania is gonna run wild this summer at SummerSlam. [00:15:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that. That was cool. Yeah, I mean, like, his promos in the early 90s were cool, but I have to admit, I didn't watch a lot of that, so I'm not as familiar with that. But like, just going back and seeing him like actually body slam a 520 pound, 7 foot 4 literal giant, that is epic. Like, I know Brock Lesnar like, later went on to F5 the Big show, and that was a big deal at the time, but yeah, these guys get stronger and stronger and apparently without the steroids, it's all natural, supposedly. But yeah, the Hulkster. Oh, we're supposed to say good things about the Hulkster, so I'll cut it there, dude. [00:16:00] Speaker A: It doesn't matter. Let's. Let's actually watch my favorite promo from another favorite wrestler of mine. I'm gonna interrupt it here and there, so fucking WWE doesn't content strike me again. But yeah, well, you don't have enough money. You can't let me do this for you. Like, I'm. [00:16:18] Speaker B: They need their 5 cents. [00:16:20] Speaker A: I'm still shilling your. For you. You. Yeah, seriously though, like, all right, they. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Need their pound of flesh. [00:16:29] Speaker A: So as you can see, this is literally cocaine the person. You know. Right. Prepare for battle. [00:16:35] Speaker B: So he literally looks like a superhero, like a Marvel character. [00:16:39] Speaker C: He does. [00:16:40] Speaker A: So what's happening here is. He's off. He's casting a spell on Hulk Hogan in his. In this promo. Hulk Hogan. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Hulk Hogan. [00:16:48] Speaker A: The sacrifice. I'm gonna pause it because I don't want to get content struck. [00:16:51] Speaker B: Oh, my. [00:16:52] Speaker A: So this isn't the one I'm thinking about. Hang on, let me find it. Crash the plane. He did a bunch like this. Crash the plane. Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan. Here it is. This is the greatest bit of theater ever done. It looks the same. It's like. Wait, are we still seeing it? Yeah, we are. Okay, okay. Sorry. Riverside confuses me. See, Hulk Hogan never did anything like this. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:17:20] Speaker C: Yeah. You like these kinds of characters, dude? [00:17:23] Speaker B: I do. [00:17:23] Speaker C: Like, Uncle Howdy. [00:17:26] Speaker A: Ultimate Warrior is better than Uncle Howdy by conventional memes. So in. In the Ultimate Warrior's, like, way of thinking, him and Hulk Hogan are elevated beings and they can teleport or they're. They're like gods. He's like. [00:17:39] Speaker B: As you travel to WrestleMania by conventional means. [00:17:45] Speaker A: The kayfabe is off the charts. Hulk Hogan. Hulk Hogan. Did you. So did you hear that bit? He says, do you try to comfort the normals who have more fear than you? [00:17:55] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:17:58] Speaker A: So by the way, in this little story, Hulk Hogan is on the plane at WrestleMania, right? Like, would they ever air this on TV nowadays? Like, probably not. [00:18:08] Speaker C: No. [00:18:08] Speaker A: He's trying to cast a spell where Hulk Hogan crashes the plane. [00:18:12] Speaker B: That's kick the doors out. [00:18:16] Speaker A: Do you kick the cockpit door down, Take the two pilots that have already made the sacrifice. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:18:23] Speaker C: Yeah. You couldn't do that after 9 11. [00:18:26] Speaker B: No challenge. It crashed the plane. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Look at his face. He's the best. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Hulk Hogan. Oh, my God. [00:18:37] Speaker A: This is on tv. Greg, what were you gonna say? [00:18:41] Speaker C: Oh, I was just saying no way you could do this after 9 11. [00:18:44] Speaker A: Oh, no. Are you kidding? [00:18:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think I was gonna say anything other than that it's shocking that. [00:18:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Face the challenge. Self destruct. It's not the Ultimate Warrior. I think he was freestyling. [00:19:03] Speaker B: He's off script. [00:19:04] Speaker A: He's insane. [00:19:07] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:19:11] Speaker A: The whole. Shut the fuck up, fucking hack. That's my job. [00:19:15] Speaker C: Somebody was gonna analyze it when we should be analyzing it. [00:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah. So, Chris, what are your thoughts on the ultimate warriors challenge to Hulk Hogan to crash the plane before? [00:19:23] Speaker B: I mean, that was amazing. So he's not the chosen. Who is the chosen one? I'm so, like, I had a thought where, like, I love these. I love these promos. They should have done the thing where like, what Kylo Ren did Ray, where he, like, Hulk should, like, reach through the screen and, like, grab his headband. He's like, you got it. I got like, they should, like, interact with each other. [00:19:43] Speaker A: I agree, I agree. [00:19:44] Speaker B: They're connected. [00:19:45] Speaker A: Like, yeah, Hulk Hogan's promos are pretty great, but they're not as good as the Ultimate Warriors. The Ultimate Warrior is like a king among men. He is like a God. Like, he's so. [00:19:54] Speaker B: I mean, he's dead, but he's a beast. He's like making these snarls, these, these noises, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, he's not a man. [00:20:01] Speaker A: He's terrifying. I don't believe the Hulkster could ever have actually beaten the Ultimate Warrior, but he did. So. Yeah. That said, I will say one thing about Hulk Hogan that I really like is the fact that he had male pattern baldness and he fucking owned that, you know? Like he didn't get hair plugs as far as I know. Right, Greg? [00:20:19] Speaker C: No, definitely not. He owned it for sure. [00:20:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:23] Speaker C: I mean, sometimes he wore his bandana around it or whatever, but. Yeah, but like. Okay, you want to know who didn't own it? John Cena. He got like hair transplants and. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Oh, did he? I didn't know that. [00:20:37] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. CM Punk calls him out on that actually in a few episodes of Raw. [00:20:43] Speaker A: But that's pretty funny. [00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah, like he. He owned it. And he is like the definition of a larger than life legend as whether we want to accept that or not, it's like pretty. [00:20:55] Speaker B: It is reality. [00:20:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Oh, no. Hulk Hogan is Hulk Hogan. People who didn't even watch wrestling knew Hulk Hogan. I mean, he was. [00:21:02] Speaker B: I know, I know. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I know you do. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the name. [00:21:06] Speaker A: I know you may not know the Iron Sheik, but you know Hulk Hogan, you know? [00:21:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:12] Speaker A: So his passing is something. I mean, you know, I'm not something. [00:21:16] Speaker C: Yeah, we can't. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah, Like, I'm not crying about Ozzy either. But that's different, right? Like, that's totally different. Like, I'm just lucky to have gotten more music from Ozzy at all. With Hulk Hogan, it's more of like. Like we're in our 30s, so people we grew up watching are gonna be dying, you know? [00:21:32] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. That's reality for a lot of other people. They were crying about a lot of other deaths, like Betty White and. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Oh, sure. Well, that's different. [00:21:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:42] Speaker A: But it's not a guy I looked up to. I'm not a wrestler. I'm not a racist, you know? [00:21:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's not like somebody you would be like, that's a true mark of a good person, actually. Like, like the Undertaker, for example. We can look up to him. He spends a Lot of time, like coaching younger wrestlers and, you know, trying to get people on the right track and whatnot. Even John Cena has a lot of Make a Wish foundation charity, that kind of stuff. But, yeah, the Hulkster. Yeah, you've already highlighted some of the things that we shouldn't be looking up to him for. But, hey, we can take the gems that he gave us in wrestling and appreciate them. [00:22:24] Speaker A: You know, they call my boyfriend. They call La Knight. They call him the megastar. Hulk Hogan is the megastar, you know? [00:22:30] Speaker C: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Could we say that? I don't know. I'm saying this tongue in cheek. Hulk Hogan, he's a trailblazer. He paved the way like he. He was being in movies and stuff as a wrestler before, you know, now we see, you know, John Cena, the Rock, the Batista, like, breaking out in the film. But, hey, Hulk Hogan was doing it first, man. [00:22:49] Speaker A: No, you're right. I think that's true. [00:22:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that's a good point. Yeah, I. That's actually a really good point because I guess, like, I thought about the Rock being the first one breaking into mainstream, but in reality, you're right. It was the Hulk stuff. [00:23:03] Speaker B: Well, you mentioned Andre the Giant. He was in film too, right? [00:23:05] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah. Princess Bride. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Princess Bride. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great movie. Yeah. So, you know, obviously, Hulk Hogan was instrumental in wrestling as we know it becoming more popular. He was also kind of a scab. You know, he. A bunch of wrestlers were trying to unionize and the Hulkster sold them out. But whatever, we're not here to talk about that. Yeah, I think that that's a good place to leave our discussion about the Hulk, you know, Mr. Hogan. I guess so. We'll wrap up episode one of this. Of this current part one of this current episode. You know, I. I of course, edit Death Wish Poetry magazine. Do check that out. I have another podcast that's connected to that called Demon Toast, where I talk about, you know, literature and horror movies and things like that. Also all my writing, my books and professional writing and all that is all the links are on demonlandbooks.com. so, Greg, what, do you just have your GitHub? [00:23:59] Speaker C: Yeah, GitHub. The link is gonna be included. My LinkedIn. Still looking for work. Although I'm gonna warn you people, if you want me to work for you, the demand is increasing, so you better reach out sooner than later, because I got my hands full with some projects I'm working on, and I've got so many interviews coming up in the next week. [00:24:22] Speaker A: So Greg is a very talented programmer. He was working for Microsoft and did not get fired for anything that was his fault. Things quite outside of his control kind of conspired to make him lose his job. So do hire Greg if you're looking for a program. [00:24:36] Speaker C: Yeah, hire me. You won't regret it. [00:24:38] Speaker A: You won't regret it. He's very fun. I love Greg very much. And Chris can be found in a dumpster near you. Chris, do you want to. [00:24:45] Speaker B: I'll be. I'll be on this bench by this dumpster all day. If you want to talk about Superman, I want you to just yell at people about Superman. All day. I'll be waving my little. My little sign, screaming from the rooftops. [00:24:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Check back for discussion about Superman, you know? [00:24:59] Speaker C: Yeah. All right. [00:25:00] Speaker B: I'll be wearing my dancing hat, watch. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Wrestling and read comic books or we can't be friends. [00:25:06] Speaker C: Sounds about right. [00:25:07] Speaker A: All right. It is stopping the recording. Something went wrong. Oh, well, that's nice. Thanks, guys. You guys. Not you guys. Riverside.