Episode 5

July 16, 2025

01:27:18

Oldberg, Saturday Night Main Event!

Oldberg, Saturday Night Main Event!
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Oldberg, Saturday Night Main Event!

Jul 16 2025 | 01:27:18

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Show Notes

Dan and Greg watch the Saturday Night Main Event PLE and comment on it, while discussing Uncle Howdy and other WWE happenings. YOU'RE MINE BECAUSE YOUR NEXT!

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Chris can be found in a dumpster near you.

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Oh, The Game
  • (00:01:35) - Seth Rollins vs La Knight
  • (00:05:16) - Seth Rollins on CM Punk's WrestleMania Match
  • (00:06:54) - Goldberg Wins The WWE Championship
  • (00:10:24) - John Cena's Retirement Match
  • (00:12:29) - I Love The Fake AI Match
  • (00:15:34) - Comments on Goldberg's Undertaker Match
  • (00:18:24) - Oh My God! Seth Rollins vs Goldberg
  • (00:21:26) - Oh My God...
  • (00:21:57) - Goldberg vs Gunther
  • (00:25:14) - Uncle Howdy Kicks Goldberg In The Face
  • (00:28:32) - Goldberg vs Gunther
  • (00:31:16) - Goldberg vs Gunther
  • (00:33:32) - Goldberg's Royal Rumble Match
  • (00:37:20) - Goldberg vs Gunther
  • (00:38:31) - Goldberg's WrestleMania 33 Flop
  • (00:42:05) - Uncle Howdy vs Goldberg
  • (00:45:34) - Guys Try Reddit For A Day
  • (00:45:58) - Goldberg's Post-Match Speech
  • (00:47:43) - Punishment For WWE vs AEW
  • (00:52:35) - The New Day vs War Raiders
  • (00:56:11) - Goldberg on WWE Network
  • (00:59:36) - Goldberg On WWE Evolution And His Vacation Plans
  • (01:01:04) - Rhea Ripley vs Asuka
  • (01:04:48) - Becky and Bailey vs.
  • (01:09:30) - Goldberg on Trish Stratus vs. Goldberg
  • (01:11:18) - Kabuki Warriors vs The New Day
  • (01:13:41) - Battle Royale Women's Title Match
  • (01:15:05) - Jade Cargill vs Naomi
  • (01:16:58) - J.C. Jane vs Jordyn Grace in Nxt
  • (01:18:32) - SummerSlam Predictions
  • (01:22:41) - Paul Heyman Wouldn't Fight Goldberg In His Retirement
  • (01:26:26) - "Uncle Howdy on Smackdown..."
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Saturday night, main event. [00:00:06] Speaker A: You're next. Because you're mine. But I got it back. [00:00:10] Speaker B: I think it's reversed. [00:00:12] Speaker A: Yeah, because you're next. [00:00:15] Speaker B: I love how they had to edit out the you're mine part on the promo clips. He probably had, like, an old man moment, and he's like, you're mine. And then he's like, because you're next, dude. [00:00:28] Speaker A: I'm stunned by how bad the game is. Like, the shockingly poor quality of the video game they're trying to sell us. [00:00:34] Speaker B: Like, dude, that looks awful. I can't believe how horrible the graphics look. You're right. It is, like, PS Quality graphics. Or even worse than that. Like. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Like everyone looks so ugly. And, like, low. Low. Like, they look. It looks like a switch port, you know? [00:00:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:56] Speaker A: And they're like. They're, like, showing Roman Reigns and Rare Ripley because, like, that'll get people excited. But it's like, they look gruesome. They don't look like themselves at all. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Yeah, you can't get excited about this. You're next. What did you think of the segment with Gunther in the car? [00:01:20] Speaker A: Oh, that was awesome. I mean, it wasn't as awesome when Goldberg came storming out and threw the lightest punch ever and go fall down and run in fear, but it was cool when he pulled up in his car, I guess. That was neat, that. [00:01:33] Speaker B: That was. Yeah, that was neat as. Oh, here we go. La Knight and Seth freaking Rollins. [00:01:38] Speaker A: Dude, La Knight is so cool. [00:01:41] Speaker B: He is. I hope he beats the out of stuff. Freaking. Look at Paul Heyman. He's like a cackling little kid. [00:01:46] Speaker A: He's just there. This gets them nothing. La Knight is, like, not part of the Get Along Gang. [00:01:53] Speaker B: No. [00:01:54] Speaker A: Well, I guess he. I guess he is now. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess they're trying to build things Cross show they doing with the. [00:02:05] Speaker A: We. We were at a restaurant, and Justin looked over, and there was some UFC garbage on, and he's like, man, you know, since we've been watching wwe, that stuff looks so boring. I'm like, yeah, it's just unexciting dudes punching each other, you know? [00:02:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Like, we whine about how there's no fun. A lot we whine about how there's no fun allowed. But, you know, you got Seth Rollins, you got La Knight. Like, come on. You know? [00:02:31] Speaker B: I know, right? Oh, my God. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Dudes. Who do you think he's trying to appeal to with the. With the leather. The tight leather pants? [00:02:39] Speaker B: Who? Seth freaking Rollins. [00:02:40] Speaker A: Seth freaking Rollins. [00:02:42] Speaker B: He's trying to get his wife Becky, going. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Well, it looks like fetish, like, gear. [00:02:49] Speaker B: You know, he does say on that one segment, when she makes fun of Lyra, she's like, I get to go. I remember it was like, I get to go home to my hot husband, and you go home to your weird fiance or something. [00:03:05] Speaker A: Those are such weird, like, insults. Like, what's her name? Did that, too. Liv Morgan pulled that on EOS guy. She's like, at least I have a man. And Iyo sky was like, she didn't care. She's like, okay, I'm the champion. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, she was. She was like, dirty Dom. Mysterious. [00:03:22] Speaker A: You see what Elliot I just did? [00:03:25] Speaker B: That was nice. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Come on, La Knight, he's built like a Marvel superhero. [00:03:32] Speaker B: See, I know. Like, it's all predetermined, but I don't. Like, everybody says, like, Oldberg is gonna win, and then, like, Seth Rollins will cash in or whatever, but I don't see it, you know? [00:03:46] Speaker A: I don't know. Well, I don't believe Goldberg could actually beat Gunter. I mean, come on, maybe in his prime, but, like, Gunter's just too. He's too talented. He's too big. He's too smart, you know? [00:03:57] Speaker B: Smart? What do you mean? [00:03:59] Speaker A: I just think that he's too. He comes across as a very strategic thinker, you know, as a strategic fighter. [00:04:04] Speaker B: You mean Seth Rollins or Gunther? Okay, yeah. [00:04:09] Speaker A: I thought you were talking about, you know, Oldberg. And now I'm doing it. Goldberg beating. You're saying you don't see Seth Rollins cashing in? [00:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah, only because, like, if he takes so much damage right now, would that make sense? [00:04:25] Speaker A: No. I'm a little surprised he's doing anything, because part of the story is that he's trying to wear down the other wrestlers by constantly wrestling them. Yet here he is fighting, Fighting La Knight for no real reason. [00:04:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it doesn't make. It doesn't make sense. I think they needed more matches, though, on this card. [00:04:43] Speaker A: Yeah, they were like, who? Who do we have La Knight fight? We don't want to. We don't want them fighting any of the jobbers or good guys, you know? [00:04:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Could have had him fight AJ Styles, but he was probably like, I don't wanna. Like, AJ probably has enough capital to be like, I don't wanna steal. You know what? [00:04:59] Speaker B: Don't want to fight. [00:05:00] Speaker A: I don't. I don't feel like fighting La Knight. [00:05:02] Speaker B: Sounds gay, I guess, but he's. He's, like, been waiting forever for that match against Dirty Dom. So. [00:05:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess he has. [00:05:12] Speaker B: And he. He's been injured. Like, it's weird because he used to be a main eventer. And they're like, nope, you're gonna be kind of like upper mid cardish guy. [00:05:23] Speaker A: I just feel like he retired the Undertaker. Like, I don't know. Like. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know, man. It doesn't make any Sen. A.J. styles. If he, like, retired, like, it seems like they wouldn't have him, you know, come back and, you know, get the main event status. Like, Goldberg can just, like, come back and randomly. Main event WrestleMania? Well, I mean, probably not anymore. They were just. Watch. He tried that, and Triple H was like, no, man, you're getting. The best we can do is main event. Saturday night's main event, you know, Did. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Seth Rollins just, like, hurt his knees doing that jump? [00:06:01] Speaker B: His knees are actually screwed up, like. [00:06:05] Speaker A: Giving him, like, a. But wait, really? [00:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah, his knees and neck have had problems. In fact, there was that segment where CM Punk was like, how are your knees, Seth? And then he's like. And he, like, marches, and it's like, how about your neck? And he's like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, that was, like, earlier on. CM Punk has just. Yeah, he's just hiding out until. [00:06:29] Speaker A: I gotta show Justin that that clip where Uncle Howdy comes out and, like, Jay USO is just, like. It runs for his life. He gets one yeet out, right? [00:06:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:40] Speaker A: It's so stupid. [00:06:43] Speaker B: That was so stupid. [00:06:45] Speaker A: Uncle Howdy. He's just terrorizing Chad Gable. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Chad Gable's hilarious. Yeah. I had no idea that was going on. All right, here we go. [00:06:56] Speaker A: Are we done? [00:06:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Thank goodness Seth Rollins lost. You Seth Rollins. You hacked. [00:07:02] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Are the bruisers going to come out and try to beat up LA Knight? LA Knight's really good at jumping into the crowd and escaping. That's his, like, secret move. [00:07:12] Speaker B: That's true. Yeah. Or yeah, he'll come out of the crowd and start beating people. I loved that segment where, like, Seth Rollins was running into the crowd and then he's just standing there eating some popcorn. [00:07:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that was pretty great. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Wouldn't that be awesome to be at a main. Like, to be at a live event and just be, like, in the concession. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Line and you see, like, two wrestlers come running out, like, chasing each other. [00:07:39] Speaker B: I know. That was epic. We don't have enough of that anymore either. Like, they definitely don't have enough, like, yeah, old undertaker stuff, but we were missing that, too. Yeah. [00:07:52] Speaker A: I mean, I'm glad they do anything. [00:07:56] Speaker B: He really got hurt. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was crazy. He landed, he did this cool flip, and then boom. Right on his legs, and his knees just couldn't take it. That's. Fucking hell. It's gotta hurt like a motherfucker. That's probably why they ended it the way they. They did, you know? [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I wonder if he was originally supposed to win it until he landed awkwardly, maybe. [00:08:19] Speaker A: Which. Which asks the question, like, what if he was supposed to cash in tonight and he hurt his fucking knees? Boy, I think Steph Rollins is like. I don't know. He's kind of losing his luster as a villain to me. Oh, is this is it time now? They're just okay? [00:08:35] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Yeah. His son looks so offended. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Gunther's like, say it, don't spray it. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Atlanta, Georgia, you're mine because you're next. Oh, my gosh. They really need to stop showing these, like, epic, like, clips of him in his prime. [00:08:51] Speaker B: I know. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Have you seen what the Hulkster looks like now? [00:08:55] Speaker B: No. Doesn't he look the same? [00:08:57] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. Honestly, I haven't watched him, but we were watching something. We were watching some live event, and, like, there were all these, like, the commercials, and one of them was for his shitty. His shitty light beer. And he's like, Hulka beer. And he just looked terrible. Like, he looked like a grandpa, but, like, in a bad way. He's all out of shape. [00:09:19] Speaker B: I saw that. I think he still looks the same as he did, like, 20 years ago. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Well, he hasn't looked good in a long time, let's put it that way. [00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah, okay, fair enough. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Because I'm still thinking about, like, Suburban Commando, Hulk Hogan, you know? [00:09:34] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no, no. [00:09:37] Speaker A: That's the Hulkster to me. You know, what if Goldberg. [00:09:41] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:09:42] Speaker A: Sorry, I didn't say anything. I'm just babbling about Goldberg. [00:09:45] Speaker B: I was just like, what if Goldberg actually can't connect on the spear anymore? That's why they had Gunther run away. [00:09:54] Speaker A: I feel like Goldberg might surprise us, but he also might not, because this is the wwe and they don't give a fuck. [00:09:59] Speaker B: They don't, man. What if that. What if the whole Rollins injury, like, messed up the whole cash in thing? And it's like, they were originally gonna have Goldberg win, but now it's pretty obvious that Gunther has to win instead. [00:10:13] Speaker A: Nothing happens. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:16] Speaker A: I mean, like, what if Goldberg wins and then nothing happens after that? It's just. Okay. Goldberg won. Hooray. The end. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Yeah. They'll probably just vacate that belt. [00:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:29] Speaker B: I don't like, that belt, like, it just. [00:10:31] Speaker A: I know it feels cheap. [00:10:34] Speaker B: It does. Because, like, the. The lineage of the other belt goes back, like, to the 70s, 80s, at least. And then this belt, like, is like. [00:10:45] Speaker A: I don't understand why a retirement match has to be for a championship. That doesn't make any sense. [00:10:51] Speaker B: It doesn't. It really doesn't. That. That almost that also lends itself to, like, okay, does he win it? Because if. Like, why else would you do this? [00:11:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it's his last. His last match. Like, the Undertaker's retirement match wasn't for anything. It was just a thing. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. And then I'm sure if he gets better treatment than Cena, Cena will complain. Oh, well, if you give him the belt, then you have to let me keep the belt. Blah, blah, blah. But maybe they can point to be, like, no, Cena Goldberg surrendered his belt. I don't know. [00:11:26] Speaker A: I don't know. I feel like they get to keep, like, the belt anyway. They always just make new belts, don't they? [00:11:32] Speaker B: I've read about that. I think they used to make the belt really, because, like. [00:11:37] Speaker A: Like, there's different belts. Like, people buy them as souvenirs. Like, yes. [00:11:42] Speaker B: Yeah, they should give them a copy of the belt. [00:11:46] Speaker A: But, like, I don't know why you would buy a souvenir. Like, you're not a wrestler. Why. Why do you have a WWE belt on your wall? Like, even if you bought it because you were excited that your favorite wrestler won, they're not gonna have it forever, you know? [00:12:00] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. [00:12:03] Speaker A: Like, imagine if I pulled a Chris and I bought the Women's Heavyweight champion belt because Raya had it for a minute. [00:12:09] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, imagine that. And I was like, yeah, this is Rhea Ripley's belt, motherfucker. And then she lost it. Like, how much of a stupid asshole are you if you do that? [00:12:17] Speaker B: You know, he would buy Tiffy's belt Flakes. [00:12:21] Speaker A: I don't know. Heads. Yeah. Old bird, old burgers coming for you. [00:12:29] Speaker B: I love the Fake AI thing with Triple H where he's like, honestly, the match has been canceled because we don't give a shit about Oldberg. Thank fucking God. [00:12:39] Speaker A: I didn't watch that. I knew it was fake. I didn't click it. [00:12:42] Speaker B: I wanted to see if somebody believed it. It's so fake. [00:12:46] Speaker A: But Sean added it immediately, which sucks. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:49] Speaker A: I was gonna let her ride because I like. I like Chaos. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Who is this guy? He's just. Okay. Ackbar. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Nah. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Ah. [00:13:00] Speaker A: I like this lady. [00:13:02] Speaker B: I must be behind you. And. Oh, there we go. It's a bit of a delay. What? [00:13:06] Speaker A: Justin, you're next. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Just tell him that. Next. [00:13:11] Speaker A: You're next. Justin, you're mine because you're next. [00:13:19] Speaker B: Imagine if Goldberg said that to Tiffy Time. You're a man because you're next. Oh, my God. [00:13:24] Speaker A: Goldberg could beat, like, any of these women that they're showing. [00:13:28] Speaker B: In actuality, probably not. No. Like, let's face it. [00:13:34] Speaker A: Wait, wait. Evolutions tomorrow. [00:13:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:39] Speaker A: I might have to watch that. I can't. I don't know what we're going to be doing. We might be getting dinner. You know, we're. [00:13:45] Speaker B: Wrestling's a hobby for people who don't eat in the house. [00:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the thing. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Rhea Ripley versus Iyo Sky. Rhea's definitely going to take it. [00:13:54] Speaker A: It's at Evolution, right? [00:13:55] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they're probably going to give it to Rhea, which really sucks. Like, IO didn't do anything fun with it. There was no. I felt like there was no story, you know? [00:14:06] Speaker B: Yeah, there really wasn't. I don't get this whole Jelly Roll thing. [00:14:10] Speaker A: I think he's just here. Like, I don't. With celebrity cameos. I don't look too deeply into it. I know they had Jon Stewart once. It's just. They had Jelly Roll come out and punch Logan Paul. [00:14:22] Speaker B: Dude, there's a royal rumble where Drew Carey came in and he was there for, like, five. [00:14:29] Speaker A: It's Gunter. [00:14:30] Speaker B: Oh, it's delayed. I don't see him yet. [00:14:33] Speaker A: What? Justin? [00:14:35] Speaker B: Yep, here he is. [00:14:36] Speaker A: I love his music. It's so good. [00:14:39] Speaker B: It is. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Mine's probably a little behind or something. I'm watching it on the hint. [00:14:45] Speaker B: No, yours is ahead of mine. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:14:47] Speaker B: That's cool. Yeah. [00:14:48] Speaker A: Crazy. Yeah, we're watching it on npc. [00:14:59] Speaker B: First title defense in current reign. Yeah, it doesn't really make sense for Gunther to lose, like, on his first title defense either. Oh, no. We'll see. We'll see what Triple H has in store for us. [00:15:14] Speaker A: He didn't fight anyone else, did he? [00:15:16] Speaker B: No. [00:15:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. He took it off Jay USO and then just came out and postured against Goldberg a few times. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. [00:15:24] Speaker A: I guess they really didn't want to, like, have anyone, like, possibly maybe by accident take it off him, which makes no sense because it's all scripted. [00:15:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:34] Speaker A: They could have had him, like, fight some, like, bottom feeders here and there. [00:15:37] Speaker B: You know, they should have had him at least do a non title match. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I like seeing Gunther do stuff. He's cool. He is the final boss. [00:15:49] Speaker B: He definitely is. Wow. He's like. [00:15:52] Speaker A: You know, in my. My undertaker thing, I had a couple typos where. I had two typos where I called him Mark Callow, Callahan or something. And I got, like, a nasty comment calling me out like, I don't know. I don't know what the guy said. Just the editor reached out, was like, dad, I just want to let you know you got some mean messages. I was like, okay, look at the. [00:16:10] Speaker B: That are knocking on Goldberg's door. [00:16:12] Speaker A: Who are these people? Maybe it's his family. Yeah, that's his son. [00:16:15] Speaker B: Wow. [00:16:15] Speaker A: I had some typos. I got my. I got the undertaker's name wrong. [00:16:18] Speaker B: This is epic. I can't believe I. I'm getting goosebumps, as sad as that is. [00:16:24] Speaker A: Are you really? He gave a little roar. That's my new thing. [00:16:34] Speaker B: I just saw it. Now it's delayed. [00:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Uncle Howdy and him should just have a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Off. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Ready? True. Justin's like, you know, Goldberg might be a meme, but he's in better shape than all of us. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Goldberg's all sweaty already. [00:16:52] Speaker A: He's just old. I hope. I'm hoping he surprises us. He pulls out the moves, you know? [00:16:57] Speaker B: Yeah, man. I don't know what to expect with this shit. Watch it. To just, like, blacks out. [00:17:03] Speaker A: He did his little punch and kick combo. [00:17:06] Speaker B: It's so delayed for me. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You're really missing a great show. [00:17:10] Speaker B: He didn't even do that when he did the car thing last week. [00:17:14] Speaker A: No, he just walked out. [00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Let it end. [00:17:20] Speaker A: He was. He was literally like, oh, my gosh, let me make it. Dear Jesus, help me. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Wow. 28 years ago, he began his career. [00:17:27] Speaker A: This music is terrible. Maybe he's going for, like. Maybe he was going for, like, a traditional fighter kind of thing. I don't know. I just really gets the W8, you know? [00:17:37] Speaker B: I know. You can't. You can't take too much stake in what they do, right? [00:17:42] Speaker A: Dude, what. What the was the Scottish warrior doing? [00:17:49] Speaker B: Scottish psychopath. [00:17:51] Speaker A: No, no, no. Like, remember last night? He was. He was the demon or something. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Finn Balor. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yeah, Finn Balor. That's it. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Yeah. That was warrior. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Whatever. Whatever the. His name is. What the was that? He was like, oh, no. They pushed him too hard. Became the demon, and he was like. Lyrics of face paint. [00:18:09] Speaker B: That just didn't work for him. Like, it works for Uncle Howdy or Bray Wyatt or the Undertaker. It just doesn't work. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah, like, I like that kind of thing, but it's like, no, not you. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Finn Balor is supposed to be the goofy Irish guy. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. I can't believe this. Yeah. Of course, now there's this commercial on. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Really going down like this. Wait, do you. [00:18:35] Speaker A: Wait, do you think they're, like, trash talking each other while the commercial's going? [00:18:39] Speaker B: It might be. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Oh, my God. That's ridiculous. They can't be like, all right, like a radio show. Like, all right, we're in commercial now. Let's, you know, hold off. [00:18:49] Speaker B: I know, I know. It's disappointing. It's all about money. We could have your vacation, could have been to Atlanta, Georgia, to watch. That would have been epic. You would be watching this. [00:18:59] Speaker A: Yeah. We have one vacation, we go to Atlanta, Georgia, to see Goldberg. [00:19:03] Speaker B: Well, there's evolution there the next day. [00:19:06] Speaker A: That's true. Is that happening in Georgia, too? [00:19:08] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all in Atlanta. [00:19:10] Speaker A: Really? [00:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Man. Does seem really cool. Like, I. I like the women's division a lot. I have a lot of fun watching them. Yeah, we're from the. This dumb or that stupid garbage with Seth Rollins. Like. Oh, my God. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that is kind of garbage. But, yeah, I mean, I really wonder how that match would have gone if he didn't get injured. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Honestly, he's probably okay. [00:19:36] Speaker B: You think he's okay? [00:19:38] Speaker A: He's fine. Oh, my God. Seth Rollins, you know, he. Why the hell was he doing something? Why was he fighting La Knight when he had. When he was scripted to take the thing off Goldberg, you know, I know, I know. [00:19:51] Speaker B: Well, who knows? Yeah, he might have just hyperextended his knee, but knee can be bad. Like, I know you can tear your ACL or doing these. [00:20:01] Speaker A: These ninja moves, and it's like, dude, you got bad knees. What are you doing? [00:20:08] Speaker B: I'm glad La Knight won, but, like, yeah, what's. What do you really get from that? You get some respect, maybe, but no title. No title match entitled. I mean, Seth can roll out the title match for any title he wants, though, right? [00:20:22] Speaker A: It's for heat. [00:20:23] Speaker B: It's. [00:20:23] Speaker A: It's for when. It's for when Seth Rollins is acting like a badass. La Knight can come out and, like, take the piss out of him because he beat him, you know? [00:20:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:31] Speaker A: It's the kind of thing I like seeing. I like drama. You know, they need to have reasons to be mad at each other. Like, when they just come out and they hate each other for no reason. It's like, okay, Good. Like this. This nar kite with the Gunther and Goldberg, like, they're trying, but I don't know. [00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah, they're trying. [00:20:49] Speaker A: It's Gunther trash talked his son, like. [00:20:54] Speaker B: Well, yeah. I love how that was the motivation for it. It was just like, a random night. And then Goldberg's like, you started something with my family. Oh, here we go. Who is this lady? [00:21:07] Speaker A: Lillian Garcia. Maybe she's Jerry Garcia's granddaughter. [00:21:12] Speaker B: She is like, an old time announcer. Holy crap. [00:21:18] Speaker A: He made a monkey face. [00:21:21] Speaker B: That's what he always does. Well, there's 20 minutes left of this show, so it can't be that quick of a. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Hey, you predicted five minutes. [00:21:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I think about five minutes. [00:21:35] Speaker A: That's hilarious. It's crazy that they're doing this after. Like. Like, yeah, you know, we're pissing on, like, Seth Rollins or whatever. But, like, hey, they were doing some cool stuff. La Knight is a. You know, he's awesome. Like, they did all these neat moves at each other. Even. Like, even the stuff that happened before. This was pretty cool. So I'm just like, can we really just have old man. All right, we're about to see it, so let's see where it goes. [00:21:59] Speaker B: This is crazy. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Goldberg. Goldberg. [00:22:04] Speaker B: Next. They gotta keep them separated. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Gotta keep them separated. Dude, you're like, a full minute behind or something. [00:22:13] Speaker B: I know. It's, like, way too slow. [00:22:16] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:22:17] Speaker B: 10 seconds behind. [00:22:19] Speaker A: It's crazy. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Maybe this will just be the match. They keep chanting Goldberg and they stare at each other. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Maybe it's. Maybe Goldberg is like Rocky, you know, where they have to play eye of the Tiger for him to win, you. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Know, like, come on, let's get going. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Fake and gay. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Oh, okay. This is gonna be bad. [00:22:38] Speaker A: It's already bad. So what's happening is Gunther. Anytime Goldberg does something to him, Gunther just falls. See, look. That's hilarious. They should have let Goldberg beat up Seth Rollins. I would have liked that. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Yeah, he is. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Is he chewing gum? [00:22:59] Speaker B: He is. [00:23:00] Speaker A: What the. Bro? Goldberg's too powerful. He's actually chewing gum. I can't believe this, dude. [00:23:08] Speaker B: They're only gonna let Gunther slap him, like, once. And then Goldberg laughs. What the hell? [00:23:13] Speaker A: He's too powerful. He's un. It's not very effective. Goldberg is a rock type. Is a ground type, you see? And, like, you know, Gunter is an electric type, and his attacks don't do anything. Dude, did you just see that? The Goldberg didn't do the punch rate, and we saw it didn't connect. [00:23:32] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:33] Speaker A: That was really sad. This is awful. This is really bad. Oh, get out of here. This is. This is. [00:23:44] Speaker B: They're making. [00:23:45] Speaker A: You know what this reminds me of? This reminds me of those Steven Seagal movies where he's so fat he can barely move, but he's in a fight scene, so they keep cutting away, and the guy's like, whoa. Every time he punches him. Like, this is. [00:23:58] Speaker B: They're making Gunther look pathetic. Okay. It's pretty clear that, like, they told Gunther to take it, like, grandpa style. [00:24:06] Speaker A: I think they probably rehearsed this a fair bit. Like, I think a lot of these matches, they don't rehearse them that much. [00:24:11] Speaker B: They. [00:24:11] Speaker A: They talk about it. They rehearse a few spots May. But this is, I think, is very rehearsed. [00:24:16] Speaker B: Gunther's like, can he even pick him up? He kind of. Gunther totally. [00:24:21] Speaker A: He almost went for a spear, but he didn't have enough speed. [00:24:24] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:24:25] Speaker A: Look at Gunther. He's like, oh, I could barely stand, dude. [00:24:29] Speaker B: I don't think he can even pick up Gunther. I think he was at the top of the ring post. So Gunther could jump into that pickup so he can't hit a jackhammer. I'm pretty sure. Unless Gunther, like, jumps from it from the top of the ring post. This is crazy. [00:24:44] Speaker A: I can't believe they're doing this. [00:24:46] Speaker B: Yeah, this is pretty bad. [00:24:48] Speaker A: I was kind of hoping Goldberg might surprise me and do something cool. [00:24:51] Speaker B: Goldberg just looks dead in this match. [00:24:54] Speaker A: I think he just died for real. He just went through the barricade. I don't think that was supposed to happen. He just killed grandpa. You're too powerful. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Goldberg's in trouble. Continues. They probably had to call a commercial break to get Goldberg to let lay there for a few minutes. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Get him some electrolytes. Get, get, get. Get the hot, cold patch. Get the Ben gay. Get the. Get the hot water bottle. [00:25:31] Speaker B: From what I can see so far, like, Goldberg's throwing really weak punches, and Gunther is just, like, intentionally falling down. [00:25:39] Speaker A: It's really funny. He goes like. He literally fights like a melting jelly. [00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:45] Speaker A: If Uncle Howdy was here, he could. He could help Gunther. I mean, Goldberg, watch. [00:25:49] Speaker B: That's the plot twist. Uncle Howdy jumps out of the bottom of the. [00:25:52] Speaker A: It's that they don't put Uncle Howdy in everything. [00:25:56] Speaker B: I know. Uncle Howdy's awesome. [00:25:58] Speaker A: I have to show Justin Uncle Howdy. We've been so busy today because we had. He got back from doggy dropping. Doggy off, and then, yeah, we had to pack and leave. Then we went out for lunch. Well, dinner. [00:26:09] Speaker B: What time did you actually leave? Two o'. Clock. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Like, two. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Cool. What do you think, Justin? Who's winning this shitty match? Me. [00:26:20] Speaker A: I'm reading a book. He's not actually watching it. He doesn't give a fuck. [00:26:23] Speaker B: He doesn't want to be subjected to Goldberg. [00:26:26] Speaker A: I don't think he cares. Like, me and you have this vicarious, like, joy in seeing Goldberg suck. He doesn't give a. Justin. Just, like, whatever, nerd. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Oh, man. [00:26:37] Speaker A: It's pretty bad. [00:26:38] Speaker B: It's what I was gonna say. Is this our podcast this week? Are we meeting tomorrow, too? [00:26:45] Speaker A: Dude, I don't know. We can meet tomorrow, but let's not do it in the morning. I want to sleep in. [00:26:51] Speaker B: All right, that should be fine. I don't have anything going on for a bit. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah, Goldberg. Goldenberg. Goldberg is coming. You're next. [00:27:04] Speaker B: I'll just make sure I text that chat so Matt doesn't wake up early. [00:27:09] Speaker A: He knows. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Oh, he knows. Yeah. Okay, man. [00:27:14] Speaker A: He's not gonna be around for, like, the next few weeks. [00:27:17] Speaker B: I got it. [00:27:18] Speaker A: Which is okay, because it'll give us time to figure stuff out. [00:27:21] Speaker B: Sounds good. [00:27:23] Speaker A: I really. [00:27:24] Speaker B: I really wonder how they're gonna end this, man. Like, Goldberg looks like just completely gassed and out of his league. [00:27:33] Speaker A: He's probably taking a nice break during the commercial. I think they actually take real breaks because, like, when the commercial break ended, like, they were bringing the things down, you know? [00:27:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Watch. They come back from the commercial and they're like, goldberg cannot continue. [00:27:50] Speaker A: Goldberg died. We're very sorry. Huey remembers Bill Goldberg, Uncle Howdy, the Man of Gold. He could not beat the man of Steel. Gunther. [00:28:00] Speaker B: Uncle Howdy had a coven, like, pick Goldberg up and throw him in the ring. [00:28:04] Speaker A: They've been fighting the whole time. Goldberg's still on his back, crying. He kind of looks like a seal on his back. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Who, Goldberg? [00:28:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:14] Speaker B: This is. This is bad, man. [00:28:16] Speaker A: It's pretty pathetic. [00:28:18] Speaker B: This is one of the worst matches I've ever seen. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Oh, that was the best match ever. No, it was cool when the Undertaker threw Mankind off the hell in a cell back in 98. And he fell 16ft through the announcer's table. [00:28:31] Speaker B: Wow. Goldberg's just slapping back. [00:28:34] Speaker A: I mean, he's on the ground now where I am. [00:28:37] Speaker B: I don't think he was supposed to fall there, and he just did. His knee doesn't look right in reality either. [00:28:43] Speaker A: I think the match has to end. I think Goldberg is done. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Do you think they can even try? Damn. [00:28:47] Speaker A: Gunther is just fucking brutal. Come on, Goldberg. Come on. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Do you think they can even try a spear? I don't think he can stand at this point. [00:28:57] Speaker A: Can't do spears. He can't do jackhammers. Those are only two moves, right? [00:29:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's what he's known for. [00:29:03] Speaker A: What the fuck was that? [00:29:06] Speaker B: I think Ring general keeps whacking his knee. [00:29:08] Speaker A: I think Grandpa's done. Grandpa wants to go home fishing. Shows. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Okay. They can't have Goldberg win this thing. [00:29:16] Speaker A: Like, he's gonna lose. [00:29:17] Speaker B: He can barely stand. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pathetic. I didn't think they were gonna let him win. It didn't make any sense. [00:29:23] Speaker B: It's bwe. It never does, I guess. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Go big. I will say the most exciting bit of drama I've seen on this is. Was Gunther taking that thing off of jey.uso. taking the belt off Jay or so. That was cool. [00:29:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was cool. But it was, like, weird at the same time. [00:29:43] Speaker A: It felt like. It felt like an upset, you know? [00:29:46] Speaker B: It did. It was a good match. But I think on paper, we'd all say Gunther would win, but, like, what the was that? I don't know, dude. [00:29:58] Speaker A: He just threw a Gunther over. Oh, yeah. He just speared the official. I think that was, like, the most pathetic spear I've ever seen, though. Like, after watching Bron Breaker hit what's his name with the spear, like, oh. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:30:13] Speaker A: The officials out cold from that. Okay. Did you get to the spear yet? [00:30:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw it. And he's trying to revive the official. [00:30:22] Speaker A: It's like he, like, barely touched him. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Oh, my God. It's gonna be power bomb time from Gunther. [00:30:28] Speaker A: I think that'll kill him. [00:30:29] Speaker B: He's taking off his knee brace. [00:30:31] Speaker A: Dude, this is fucking ridiculous. That means his knee isn't actually hurt if he's doing that. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what you would think. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Unless Gunther actually wants to kill him. I don't think for real. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Oh, my God. The faces that Goldberg makes is priceless. Goldberg just looks. [00:30:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought they would use this as a thing to make Gunther seem more evil and wicked. [00:30:54] Speaker B: Build his heel up more. [00:30:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. You don't have to. But they love to do it, you know, they love to make their villains shine. [00:31:02] Speaker B: The nake gun, he whacks it, hit him with this. [00:31:06] Speaker A: With this knee brace. See, the only fun I'm getting out of this is watching Gunter bully this old man. [00:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah, this is. This is pathetic. [00:31:16] Speaker A: Holding up the knee brace like it's a trophy. [00:31:20] Speaker B: What the. [00:31:21] Speaker A: This is awesome. [00:31:22] Speaker B: Is he Gonna take a chair and just. Whack. [00:31:24] Speaker A: He's harassing his son now. [00:31:26] Speaker B: Wow. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Well, they just blurred it out because he hit the sun. [00:31:30] Speaker B: What? Yeah, the blur out was weird. [00:31:33] Speaker A: That was really weird. Like, who cares? It just makes Gunther seem like an asshole. That was not a spear. [00:31:40] Speaker B: They probably just have that so Goldberg can get a breather. [00:31:44] Speaker A: That's all that was. That was not a spear. [00:31:47] Speaker B: That was a shit. [00:31:49] Speaker A: He didn't leave the ground. [00:31:51] Speaker B: That. That was nasty. [00:31:52] Speaker A: He didn't leave the ground. Oh, is he gonna attempt the jackhammer? Don't do it. [00:31:57] Speaker B: I guess he's gonna try it. [00:31:59] Speaker A: What the fuck was that? I guess they're calling it a jackhammer. I'll allow it. [00:32:03] Speaker B: And then the ref. [00:32:05] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:06] Speaker B: How convenient. Are you serious? [00:32:11] Speaker A: This is pretty bad. You can't sell this. [00:32:14] Speaker B: If they had Gunther did not kick out of that, that would be epically bad. [00:32:19] Speaker A: I might stop watching permanently. It's pretty fucking bad. Yeah. Like, they're doing the thing where. Where Gunther defeats him, but Goldberg put up a really great fight, and it's, like, legendary. You. They're trying to give him, like, the Beowulf. [00:32:34] Speaker B: Here we go. He's gonna white out. He's gonna go to sleep. [00:32:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that's okay. [00:32:39] Speaker B: This is. This can't even be a legacy match for him. This is pathetic. Would you really want to go out this way? [00:32:46] Speaker A: It's pretty bad. Like, he got, like, a single pathetic. It wasn't even a spear. Like, if that's a spear. Oh, is it over? Yeah, it's over. Thank Odin. [00:32:56] Speaker B: Goldberg's done. [00:32:58] Speaker A: All right. It's over. All that hype for that. Wait, so. So did he finish it in Atlanta? Did he teach him a lesson or what? [00:33:07] Speaker B: No, he lost. And then Seth would come out now, except something's happening. Except Seth is injured. [00:33:17] Speaker A: Gunther should go. Should go and, like, steal Goldberg's wife now. Because he beat him. He should steal his wife and kick his son in the nuts. Be like, I own your family now, Bill. What now, Bill? I guess we're done. Guess that was it. [00:33:31] Speaker B: That was. That was. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Are you. Are you pleased. [00:33:36] Speaker B: That all the hype. [00:33:37] Speaker A: And build up there just choked him out? Goldberg got, like, the most pathetic spear I've ever seen. They zoomed in really closely. You couldn't see that Goldberg didn't leave the ground. Only you could see. He didn't really spear him. And then he did, like, Greg, would you even call that a jackhammer? No, he, like, picked him up and dropped him by accident. Like, that was, like, he couldn't properly hold him. And then Gunther just threw him down and, like, choked him out. And that was it. [00:34:04] Speaker B: Yeah, they had. They had Jey Uso lose the same way. Except the Jey uso match was way better. Eat man's appearing. He's gonna appear. [00:34:13] Speaker A: It actually felt like a match. I mean, yeah, he choked him out, like, because that's how Jey uso beat Gunter. He choked him out because that's Gunter's move, you know, that's classic wrestling stuff. [00:34:29] Speaker B: I'm messaging with JR and Nikki right now, and. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Really? [00:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And I was like, worst match ever. And then JR is like, have you not watched any Goldberg matches in the last five years? [00:34:42] Speaker A: He's done other matches in the last five years. [00:34:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Undertaker. And he's telling. Yeah, he's telling me, watch Goldberg. Undertaker from Saudi Arabia makes this match look like a five star masterpiece. [00:34:57] Speaker A: It probably does, man. That's the match where Undertaker and him were up their moves. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah, that's killed Goldberg. [00:35:07] Speaker A: That would break my heart to watch, man. I can't watch the Undertaker suck. Yeah, it's best when I see it in the documentaries. I'm like, no, no, no, no. I don't want to see this. I just, like, look away. I'm like, nope. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Wow, that was something. [00:35:21] Speaker A: Yeah. That was worse than I thought it was gonna be. That was pretty bad. I was entertained, I'll give him that. I mean, was. [00:35:28] Speaker B: It was just because it was entertaining in, like a cringe way. It was like, yeah, it was like. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Hanging out with Chris. [00:35:35] Speaker B: Continue this kind of entertaining. [00:35:37] Speaker A: It was like hanging out with Chris, you know? [00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That's one way to look at it, man. What are they gonna do? Like, is he just gonna. He's clearly not gonna do another match. But is he gonna, like. That's an embarrassing way to leave Isn. [00:35:52] Speaker A: On his shield, bro. Didn't you hear them say it? What if the fake thing say, oh, is it over? Is that it? [00:35:59] Speaker B: All Saturday night, main event, Uber Georgia. Yeah, I guess so, man. Oh, here we go. Boy. [00:36:06] Speaker A: How does this speech compare to Uncle Howdy's speech? That profound promo we watched, it can't possibly compare. Nothing can compare to that. Well, that sucked. [00:36:16] Speaker B: They told Gunther to get the hell out of the ring, I guess. [00:36:19] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's because Goldberg got the. You know. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. I guess. [00:36:22] Speaker A: That was the most pathetic retirement party I've ever seen. Like, what a fucking ego trip, man. [00:36:28] Speaker B: I guess we're not gonna see him on Raw tomorrow. Is Gunther gonna be like, I retired Bill Goldberg. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Well, yeah, now he gets to say that. You know, he gets to talk himself up and do the whole final boss. [00:36:42] Speaker B: So it went exactly as how everyone predicted, I guess, except me. I was kind of holding out hope that they would get rid of the world title, but. Yeah, I don't know, man. [00:36:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty sad when things go exactly the way you think they will, because it's just. [00:36:59] Speaker B: It's not exiting. That was the logical way it would go. You and Matt tried to tell me, and everybody tried to tell me, but I was like, no, maybe we'll live in a world where Goldberg's the champion again. [00:37:13] Speaker A: My gosh, man, that sucked. [00:37:16] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [00:37:17] Speaker A: So bad. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't. I don't. I'm at a loss for words after that match. [00:37:23] Speaker A: Well, I'm not watching any more fucking broadcast TV because it sucks. [00:37:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. With all the stupid commercials and like, I don't know, there's like. I don't even. I can't even retain any content of the commercials that we just witnessed. All I have in my head from that match is, yeah, let's break down a couple key points that came from me. Goldberg tries a spear, misses. Gunther pretends to flop off like, a million times. Like, Goldberg, like, punches. Like. [00:37:54] Speaker A: Punches. Like a grandma. [00:37:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know if, like, those punches could knock down a five year old. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Like, if you put your hand out and he punched it, you'd be like, wait, did you just throw a punch or what? What happened there? [00:38:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was insane. And then like, yeah, the whole referee spearing thing. [00:38:13] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:38:14] Speaker B: And then the referee, of course, starts running towards the ring when Gunther is about to win. What a coincidence. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I think they put that, like, I don't know. How many Saturday night main events have you watched? [00:38:33] Speaker A: Actually, I don't know. Not many. [00:38:36] Speaker B: I've never watched one until now, but I heard it's like the lowest rung pay per view, if you will. Like, I mean, the music is, like, archaic. It's like, I don't even, like, do it. But you know how the music. [00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah, they haven't upgraded it. [00:38:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it just sounds old. And then they're probably like, yeah, let's put Goldberg on here. We can hide him and it'll be over. It'll be over. And we can say, hey, man, you were the main event of a pay per view. How about that? And then it. There was, like, not a lot of energy to that. Like, I feel like there's more energy to Most Raws than that Saturday night main event we just watched. Although the Seth Rollins La Knight match was pretty decent. [00:39:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it was okay. It was okay. I mean, I. I didn't. I didn't see the. Bianca. Bianca. I keep saying Bianca. [00:39:25] Speaker B: The. [00:39:25] Speaker A: The Jade Cargill. And who was that? Who was the other girl? I don't know. [00:39:29] Speaker B: Jade Cargill. [00:39:31] Speaker A: You forgot. [00:39:32] Speaker B: I forgot. Yeah. [00:39:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I got a shower. [00:39:36] Speaker B: That wasn't a match. That was a flare up. Yeah. Jade Cargill was feuding with somebody and. And then Nick Aldis came out and said, you can't even wait till tomorrow. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it just seemed like. It seemed like some dumb kayfabe I could miss. [00:39:49] Speaker B: So I was like, yeah, to be honest, you could miss that whole night and nobody would lose sleep over that. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Watch the five minute, you know, Goldberg flop and, you know, call it a day. [00:40:01] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That was the other bit of the match. Like, he would go around and take that knee brace and just braid it like the belt or the trophy. It was like, okay. [00:40:11] Speaker A: Like, I mean, I like that because it's cruel. It's nasty. [00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is. I know what the headline is going to be. Maybe Goldberg. I don't know, like, the thing. This mostly answers all the creative decisions, but, like, what I wonder is, will Goldberg come out? Like, he definitely can't go again? That. That was pretty clear. Like, he said he had a match left in him. He maybe had like a tenth of a match left in. I don't. [00:40:42] Speaker A: I don't even stand at the end. He was done. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker A: I can't believe he tried to do a jackhammer. He, like, lifted him, but he couldn't get him all the way up, so he put him on his shoulder and then he dropped him. [00:40:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. [00:40:55] Speaker A: That's horrible. That spear was really bad. You're supposed to give a running leap and jump, like Venom or Wolverine and slam them with your body. Like, he just, like, kind of ran into him. He did that to the. To the ref, too. That would have been pretty cool if he could pull it off, but, you. [00:41:14] Speaker B: Know, no, this was a mistake. He should. [00:41:19] Speaker A: You know what Goldberg needed? He needed a fucking stunt double who he could shoot from behind. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Well, you know what? Yeah, it. That would have been hard, too. Like, I always said that Stone Cold looks someone somewhat like Goldberg. [00:41:34] Speaker A: He does. Well, maybe like, maybe like 20 years ago. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like if they colored his beard and stuff, maybe they could have, like, put Stone Cold in and over. [00:41:50] Speaker A: He got one out while he was walking out. [00:41:52] Speaker B: Like, most of the Time. Goldberg didn't even say anything. You're right. He was just like. That last straw was funny, though. He's like, you've been talking a lot of. And now it's time for your ass to cash it. And I'm like, wow. [00:42:03] Speaker A: And then he went out. He threw the latest punch of all time, and Gunther was like, whoa. And then he threw himself out of the ring somehow and ran for his life, you know? [00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. [00:42:15] Speaker A: He ran like Uncle Howdy was after him. [00:42:19] Speaker B: That wasn't very believable. That would be great. Like, Gunther comes out. Talk on Goldberg. And then Uncle Howdy's, like, comes out and taunts Goldberg is. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Everyone's taunting Goldberg. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. It could be, like a circle jerk of taunting Goldberg. Who gets the next turn to taunt. [00:42:37] Speaker A: Goldberg, Whoever was there for Goldberg. Like, he said he had, like, over 100 people. People come out and see him, and I'm like. Like, were they happy? Not only did he lose, he didn't. He didn't give a good match. He didn't look flattering at all. [00:42:51] Speaker B: That was one of the worst matches I ever saw. [00:42:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it was really bad. [00:42:55] Speaker B: It was, man. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Well, that's why we watch wrestling, right? [00:42:59] Speaker B: Yeah. You can't. You can't color that match in a pretty light at all. [00:43:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. So there was that match. I don't know what more there is to say about that match. It's something that I, like. I built it up so much in my. Which I know it was a mistake. I don't. I don't know why. The promos, like, kind of sucked looking at them, but they did them as best they could with what they were working with. I thought the promo. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They really needed, like, more drama, but it doesn't matter because at the end of the day, the actual event was bad. [00:43:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it was terrible. It was terrible. That whole match card was just bad. [00:43:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, you know, here's the best thing about it. It's over. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Thank God. Yeah. [00:43:43] Speaker A: Never have to see it again. Except when they flash back to all Gunther's evil, you know, his trail of carnage. [00:43:49] Speaker B: You know, that's true. But they couldn't even really have. I guess they had Gunther, like, try to sell it a little bit. Like, let's have Gunther slap Goldberg. And then, like. But you notice he wasn't even slapping as hard as he could. [00:44:04] Speaker A: No. Are you kidding? Goldberg couldn't take it. [00:44:06] Speaker B: Goldberg just was like this. [00:44:08] Speaker A: At one point, he was like, no, it's real. It's happening. [00:44:11] Speaker B: No. [00:44:12] Speaker A: What did I do? I've broken it. Oh, my gosh. Oh, Grandpa can't wait to get home and watch his fishing shows, you know, man, I know. I feel like he's gonna like, show up at my house, like, hey, man, you got something to say? Goldberg, you're next. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:44:33] Speaker B: Well, I don't know what will happen next. Goldberg showing up at your house or me having a night. No, me having a nightmare of Goldberg showing up at the house and kicking my ass or me having a nightmare of Uncle Howdy. [00:44:46] Speaker A: I kind of feel like anyone could kick Goldberg's ass. You know, he fights worse than William Shatner. What the man? [00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I still don't know what we witnessed there. I gotta. [00:45:02] Speaker A: He was done. He couldn't even walk at the end. He was on the ground. That was it. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:45:08] Speaker A: Like sometimes, like. Like, I remember there was one match where Rhea Ripley was fighting someone and the other girl kept kicking her leg and it was like, obvious kayfabe because like, Raya was like, oh no, my leg is hurt, I can't. It was like, bullshit. But she was doing a. She was doing a bit for what was written. This. He actually wasn't acting. He could not walk. [00:45:29] Speaker B: No, he couldn't. I'm trying to, like. I'm trying to see what people are saying about this match right now. Actually. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Go on like Reddit, actually. Where's my phone? Let's have a look, shall we? [00:45:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Goldberg in. Gunther Goldberg. Okay, that's from four days ago. We need something from today. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Give me a second. I'm gonna get something. I'm gonna rwwe. There's probably a mega thread. Here it is. Was there not a mega thread? Does nobody care? [00:45:53] Speaker B: Guess nobody. I can't find any. [00:45:56] Speaker A: Are you kidding me? It's just me and you. [00:45:58] Speaker B: All right, Goldberg, first live. Now, Seth Payne. Man, jey USO lost the belt for that. I'm reading Twitter, dude. [00:46:07] Speaker A: I'm so. [00:46:08] Speaker B: How do you cut off the Goldberg speech? NBC. That was awful. [00:46:12] Speaker A: A good point. Let me go to Blue sky for contrasting input. Goldberg. [00:46:17] Speaker B: I just can't believe they came up so short on time that we couldn't get the full post match speech from Goldberg. Such a bummer that he couldn't have that truly special moment. Showing the full footage after the fact is not a proper substitute for time management. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Forget today for a minute how anyone can watch Bandito vs Takashita and say to themselves, I prefer to see Goldberg versus Gunter. The fuck out of here. Aew, my God. Lol. That stunk. Incredible carry job by Gunter calling all the spots and making sure Goldberg had enough time to overcome being gassed. [00:46:50] Speaker B: He did that. He did. He let Goldberg rest by carrying around that freaking knee brace. [00:46:57] Speaker A: It was a fun bit. He punched his son in the face. I mean, I appreciate that. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Yeah. That was funny though. [00:47:02] Speaker A: They blurted out because they're, you know, that. [00:47:04] Speaker B: That's freaking weird. Why did they blur that out? [00:47:07] Speaker A: I think his son is underage. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Is he? [00:47:11] Speaker A: I'm guessing, I'm guessing. [00:47:12] Speaker B: I'm guessing he looks like. [00:47:14] Speaker A: He looks pretty young. He looks. He might be like A. [00:47:17] Speaker B: He's 19, so it can't be that. I guess. [00:47:21] Speaker A: That's weird. Maybe they. Maybe their cameraman just sucks. [00:47:27] Speaker B: It might be. I think it might have been a technical error. That looked like a pretty low budget production, to be frank. [00:47:33] Speaker A: It feels like they're filling time. Unless it's legit. That many commercials, there's no way Gunther and Goldberg is going 30 minutes. Says this guy 40 minutes ago. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah, they. [00:47:43] Speaker A: Doc. Okay, here, here's a good one. Sure. The franchise and the feeling versus the Young Bucks has been an incredible high octane match. But wait until you see Goldberg versus Gunter Gunther. [00:47:57] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. I can't. I can't parse those results in my head. [00:48:00] Speaker A: I try as hard to not just be like a Console wars level person about WWE vs AEW, but it is genuinely insane to me that people are unironically going to pay money to. To see Goldberg versus Gunter and Solo Sikoa versus Jimmy uso. I saw a little of that match. It was whatever. It was better than fucking Goldberg. [00:48:19] Speaker B: I. I don't know, man. [00:48:21] Speaker A: I think that's the extent. Everything else is from like 18 days ago. I don't think anyone gives a fuck. [00:48:26] Speaker B: I think they could. Even if Seth was okay, I don't think they could have him cash it in there because, like he hurt his knees. Yeah, nobody gave a shit. But now it's like too predictable. The obvious spots are like, he's going to cash in at Summer Slam or he's probably gonna wait till Wrestlemania. Or maybe he'll. Oh, maybe this is obvious too. Maybe Cena will steal the title. And that's when Seth Rollins is like, nope, I'm cashing you out right now or cashing you in right now. [00:48:59] Speaker A: I don't know. Anything can happen. I mean, there's enough ambiguity for us to be excited about it. So for that I applaud them because this is a pretty badly plotted thing we're watching. You know. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't care what anyone says. I don't really care for Triple H's storytelling. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of losing me a bit. Especially because we've been looking at older stuff, and it's like, ooh, you know, it's. It's just like. To me, like, the shortcomings of it I assumed were because it was wrestling and it was like, live event. So it's like, okay, it makes sense that they do it, that they do the same things over and over again. But, like, there's, like, a lack of initiative and a lack of creativity, you know, and there's a lack of new elements being introduced. Case in point, the women's division. Like, they've been doing this Bailey, Liver, Valkyria stuff forever, and I'm just like, what are they even fighting about anymore? Like, I can't keep up. And it's because it's the same thing. They're still fighting over WrestleMania. Like, are you kidding? Nothing else has happened. [00:50:10] Speaker B: Yeah, it's sad, man. [00:50:12] Speaker A: And, like, Seth Rollins is like, I'm a visionary. And I'm like, what's happening? Like, we talking about, you want the belt? They gotta give him more motivation, you know? [00:50:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't even. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Like, I understood Gunter. Gunter was like, jey uso. You're a fucking clown. I'm gonna beat you into the ground because you think you can beat me. And that kept escalating. You know, he beat his brother down in front of him. That, right there is more development than Seth Rollins has gotten, you know? [00:50:41] Speaker B: Yes, that's true. [00:50:44] Speaker A: You need to have things happen. You need to have things happen. You can't just have the same things happen because you're not moving the story Forward. It's Storytelling 101. So I'm gonna agree. I think Triple H needs some new blood in his writing room. [00:50:57] Speaker B: I mean, it's interesting because, like, we talked about pocket universes a lot, but it feels like Triple H's stuff is a lot of pocket universes. [00:51:08] Speaker A: It's a lot of stories that. Yeah, it's a lot of fiefdoms that are playing out and they don't cross over with each other. They don't feel like they're part of the same world. Like, Lyra, Valkyria and Bailey doesn't affect anything else. No. [00:51:21] Speaker B: That's why the Intercontinental Championships are a little bit weird, and they don't seem like super prestigious. Like, the problem is, like, you have dom as the 1 intercontinental mental champion. And it sounded. It sounded like I was reading Stuff before. And it sounded like before Raw went to Netflix. Like, Raw. Because I was reading about the Wyatt Six, and, like, people were saying, it's like this, no sense. Raw's Judgment Day. And this was from, like, a year ago. Raw's Judgment Day and Smackdown is bloodline. And I'm like, ooh, Judgment Day. We don't live in a good world if that's how things like. Because Judgment Day gets old too. Like, I don't know. [00:52:08] Speaker A: It's real. They're so boring. You know what it's like, did you ever. Okay, so you had the X Men, right? Like, they were real big in the 90s. Well, one one of their big artists off to go create his own comic book over at Image. It was called Wildcats. And they were just the most generic looking superheroes. They were all wearing big utility belts and shoulder pads and big guns and robot arms, you know, and, like, the one red eye. That's what Judgment Day is like to me. It's the bunch of generic standing around going, yeah, man, we're gonna do it. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Like, wow. I. I agree. Yeah. That is Judgment Day. They just stand around and really, I mean, I guess they could be like, well, look at our belts. And then like, Dom. [00:52:52] Speaker A: Like, I find Dom kind of endearing. But you're right, he doesn't do anything. And, like, I love Liv Morgan as a character, and I like Raquel. I do like Raquel as a performer and as a character and as a wrestler. But, like, you know, I don't know. I mean, it's. It's better than whatever's going on in the men's tag team division with the fucking new day. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Well, don't you miss Carlito, the guy that was eating an apple at every show? [00:53:18] Speaker A: He was a fun guy. [00:53:20] Speaker B: I know. Well, he's better than the new day. The new day was so bad. Judgment Day over the new day. The new day is just like, oh, they're so boring. I don't know how anybody can find, like, this more entertaining than the Wyatt Six. [00:53:37] Speaker A: The only thing worse than the new day is. Who are those guys? The War Raiders. They suck. [00:53:43] Speaker B: They freaking suck. [00:53:44] Speaker A: You think I would enjoy having, like, Viking. Viking themed wrestlers? But they're the worst, man. They're the worst. They're so bad. [00:53:52] Speaker B: They seem like a real cheap copy of the Road warriors to me. Like, a really bad copy of the Road warriors because the Road warriors were, like, legendary. But War Raiders are just, like, total shit. [00:54:05] Speaker A: War Raw is War Raytaz. [00:54:09] Speaker B: That's what Pat McAfee would always do. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I don't know. They should go back to wearing the Clash of Clan helmet. You know, the fucking plastic helmet or whatever they did that WrestleMania. They came out dressed like Clash of Clan guys. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah, I sadly didn't get to see WrestleMania, but that would have been. [00:54:31] Speaker A: Someone came out dressed like the Doom Slayer from Doom Eternal or whatever. Doom The Dark Ages. And like, that. That's also cringe, but it's not as cringe as the War Raiders, you know, like, they come out dressed like Clash of Clans. Like, what the fuck? I don't know. Yeah. Oh, well. Well, maybe the Wyatt sex will come to raw. [00:54:52] Speaker B: I hope so. We gotta get them on Netflix. After seeing that promo last night with Uncle Howdy, I'm like, how the hell? [00:55:01] Speaker A: Like, that was such a good promo. Like. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:04] Speaker A: Talking about, like, you know, the duality of man or something. [00:55:08] Speaker B: You know, people are so stupid. Like, I read their comments and they're like, the guy. The guy's real. Well, it's. His alternate ring name is, like, Bo Dallas. The guy. That's Uncle Howdy, and he's like, oh, he can't act. His promos suck. And I'm like, dude, what are you talking about? Go. Yeet. Or watch the New Day. [00:55:30] Speaker A: Yeah, seriously. Like, so many of these things are just dumb and they're just, like, talking themselves up. Whereas, like, Uncle Howdy is, like, doing, like, he's making magic. It's cinematic and dramatic and kind of chilling. It's like, whoa. And he's, like, interspersing himself with Uncle Howdy. You know what I mean? [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that was awesome. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's cool. It's like some psycho shit, you know? [00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I could watch that promo all day. I mean, hell, we spent, like five to ten minutes just rewinding Uncle Howdy doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:56:02] Speaker A: Well, that's gold. That's like mean magic right there. Like, holy. Dude, that's the greatest clip ever. I'm so glad you found that. I wanted to rewind the. The one promo we saw, but then, like, I. I had to watch an ad and was like, ah, you're killing me here. Yeah, they really need to fix their app and let us search by wrestler. You know? [00:56:21] Speaker B: They do, because it would be, like, modern wrestler. It'd be Uncle Howdy all day. [00:56:26] Speaker A: You know what it is? I know what it is. I just realized what the problem is. So when they. When they record Raw, when they record smackdown and they put it up, they don't tag. They don't tag. Tag. It. By wrestlers that were there. [00:56:42] Speaker B: I see. Okay. [00:56:44] Speaker A: Yeah. That's why they can't, like, that's why you can't search, because they're lazy. [00:56:49] Speaker B: They are. See, the old days, like. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Well, the old days, there was no. [00:56:54] Speaker B: Streaming, so, you know, there wasn't streaming, but, like, based on what Matt was telling. No, it was more so you could get to each show. [00:57:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:57:03] Speaker B: And easily. Not each, like, I wonder what the. [00:57:07] Speaker A: WWE streaming service was like, you know, does it still exist? [00:57:11] Speaker B: No, I think it was WWE Network, and then it fell because Peacock got the contract, and then Peacock is teetering because of Netflix's contract with Raw. [00:57:25] Speaker A: So let me see. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know, man. I just. I don't know what to think of my life after watching that match. [00:57:33] Speaker A: You're having an existential crisis. [00:57:36] Speaker B: I am, because I built that up so much, and I'm like, oh, that was rough. [00:57:41] Speaker A: How could you build. How could you build that up? Like, you knew it was gonna suck. [00:57:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I did, but, like, it was just awesome. The. The burnout that Goldberg did was awesome. That probably, like, rescued the whole, like, build up, and it was like, whoa, yeah, here we go. But, like, then when he got. Whenever he was in the ring, it fell so short. Looking back on it, like, it was awful. [00:58:03] Speaker A: Everything he did was awful. [00:58:07] Speaker B: You're not. He was flying. [00:58:10] Speaker A: He was literally probably in his fucking dressing room drinking tons of water in Red Bull and just going, goldberg. [00:58:30] Speaker B: You should make it happen. Spew. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Like a little old man Digimon, you know? [00:58:47] Speaker B: Oh, man, it would be awesome to, like, write some Pokemon emulator where you could catch Goldberg. [00:58:53] Speaker A: Like, just Goldberg. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. You could throw in Gunther and Jay, USO and everybody. [00:58:59] Speaker A: He has Yeet Attack. You know, he has, like. He has a move. It's like. It's like charisma dance or something that, like, boosts his, like, speed or something. [00:59:07] Speaker B: You could catch Uncle Howdy, and he'd be rocking in his rocking chair. [00:59:12] Speaker A: Maybe there's, like, a career. Maybe there's, like, a kayfabe stat. You know, the higher your kayfabe stat, the more just goes your way, you know? Like, you just win the battle sometimes, right? [00:59:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Justin, do you want to drink? You want to go drink? You're gonna get a dink, or are you just the cozy? Okay. [00:59:32] Speaker B: Oh, man. Yeah. Goldberg, so what do you. What do you have on tap for Evolution tomorrow? I don't even know the matches. Let me see here. [00:59:45] Speaker A: Well, I know Rhea and IO, There's. There's like, a. An eight woman, like, Royal Rumble. It all sounds very cool. I just don't know that we're gonna watch it because we're on vacation. [00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't blame you guys. If I was on vacation, I don't know if I'd do it. Look at Bianca. [01:00:00] Speaker A: As Justin said, wrestling is a hobby for people who don't leave the house. [01:00:04] Speaker B: You really said that, Justin? [01:00:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:07] Speaker B: I mean. All right, you do. You don't think. You don't think we need to meet tomorrow, then? [01:00:23] Speaker A: Up to you. [01:00:24] Speaker B: All right, how about we play it by ear? You guys enjoy your vacation, and if you think there's something to say, we can have a show. Otherwise, I'm good either way, especially if. [01:00:34] Speaker A: I don't watch Evolution, like, live. Like, at that point, it's like, meh. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I won't watch Evolution live. Maybe we should. Like, I'll. I have the matches ahead in front of me. Maybe we can quickly do a take on it, and then we can call it. And hey, if you. I'm good with calling this our podcast, but for the week. But if you want to meet again, if some inspiration comes, I'm good with that, too. Just let me know. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. So. All right. Let me put the Evolution matches to them. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Okay. Whenever you're ready. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Okay. Evolution preview. Where is it? Okay. [01:01:15] Speaker B: Oh, you found it. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I got it. [01:01:18] Speaker B: Okay. So, iyo, sky versus Ria. I'm going with Ria. I think they're gonna put her over. [01:01:26] Speaker A: I think so, too. I think it'll be a good match. They always put on a good show. Like, I love watching them. It's usually pretty fantastic. [01:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so, too. I think, like, I love iyo. I mean, I like iyo. How about that? I like IYO a lot, but I think, like, she's had her day in the sun. I mean, hell, she defended at WrestleMania. You can't get any bigger than that, really. Unless you're main eventing WrestleMania. But, yeah, I think she had a nice little run and it's time for mommy to come back and take over. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I just hope that. I just hope they give Ray Ripley, like, someone good to defend against, because nothing's been happening for a while. Like, maybe Becky lynch will step up and be like, I want to be the World Heavyweight Champion. [01:02:15] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. [01:02:16] Speaker A: But, like, they have so many other characters. Like, Alexa Bliss can step up. Like, she was Ray Ripley's doubles partner. You know, she's on. [01:02:26] Speaker B: She's technically on smackdown, right? [01:02:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. They were working together at the. I don't know. That other thing we saw, it's technically. [01:02:38] Speaker B: A raw title, but I, I, I feel. I feel lines blurring again. They might just do away with the brand. The hard brand line. [01:02:48] Speaker A: Who cares? Yeah, like, whatever. It's a contract issue, I think, you know, But I don't know. I just. My thing is that, like, I kind of feel like it's the same characters over and over again. Like, what, are they gonna have Roxanne Perez or Raquel Rodriguez go after, you know, Rhea Ripley? Like, I just. I don't know. They could. I like those. I like them. But they also have Asuka. [01:03:11] Speaker B: Mm. [01:03:12] Speaker A: So, yeah, I mean, maybe they want to give Rhea the thing back because they see her as a more exciting character. Even though Eos sky puts on a hell of a show. You know, I just, I think at the end of the day, comes down to money, you know, you got a lot of gross men like me that are obsessed with Rhea Ripley, so, you know. [01:03:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I do, but. Okay, like, you're obsessed with Raya Ripley in more than one way. But, like, I, I appreciate, I appreciate, like, kind of like her dark side, I guess. Like, I would be like, hey, she's. She's cool. Like, even putting all the. [01:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:47] Speaker B: Lust and glitter and stuff aside, it's. She's just cool and, like. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Well, that's why I like her. She's cool. She's awesome. She's very physically intimidating. She has a really, really edgy gritty Persona and. Yeah. I mean, she could back it up. She's not like fucking Goldberg who can't even walk, you know? [01:04:08] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I. Well, I mean, I don't. We don't often see, like, 58 year old women coming out of retirement. [01:04:18] Speaker A: I should not have invoked Goldberg. I should not have invoked. [01:04:20] Speaker B: Although, let's see. [01:04:23] Speaker A: No, it's okay. My point is that, like, if there was like, a superhero like Rhea Ripley, like a female superhero that, like, you know, wore black and, you know, came out to, like, badass music whenever they showed up on their motorcycle or something. I could, like, throw down with, like, the strongest, like, characters. Like, people would love that. You know, the fact that there isn't is kind of criminal, like Rhea Ripley. You're right. She's cool. She talks like Wolverine, for fuck's sake. You know what I mean? [01:04:47] Speaker B: Does. Yeah. [01:04:48] Speaker A: And like, when she's really, like, going, like, she has this thing she does where she licks her teeth, you know, it's just. She's cool, you know? [01:04:55] Speaker B: She does. Yeah. You got it. You gotta love Rhea. [01:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I Think they'll put her over. And you mentioned Becky. So I'm gonna parlay that into the next match versus Bailey and Lyra. [01:05:11] Speaker A: That's another quagmire. It just keeps going. I don't even understand why we're still doing that stuff, you know? [01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah, and it's for the Intercontinental Championship. I mean, they. The odd thing here is they talk about Becky and Bailey and maybe even Lyra as being a Hall of Famer, and then they talk about, like, AJ's style of being a Hall of Famer, and they're all chasing the IC title. It's like, well, why can't they chase the world title? And I. I guess the answer is it's just too crowded, you know? [01:05:42] Speaker A: Like, that's the real reason they have all these ancillary titles. It's because they can't have everyone chasing the World Heavyweight Championship. [01:05:50] Speaker B: You know, they used to have more title, like, but it used to be better, like, because there was no brand. Like, they had Raw on smackdown, but everybody could just go to both shows and. But as a result, like, in addition to the Intercontinental Championship, you had the European Championship. That was kind of random as hell. Like, it was like, okay, like, why do we need that? But I think it was really like, they. They had a push in, like, Europe, specifically England, and usually the English guy of the group, like William Regal or British Bulldog, would hold that title, and then eventually, it kind of lost meaning, so that's why they merged it with the Intercontinental title. But the other title that I think they should bring back is the Hardcore Championship. That was really neat. Like, you. Technically, it was kind of like money in the bank in the sense. You had to, like, defend it 24 7. Like, somebody could. They had segments where, like, some guys, like, trying to go to bed in his hotel, and then, like, somebody comes and there's a ref there, and he just throws him on the ground and pins him and takes the title. There was, like, a segment. A guy was being chased around like an amusement park to be pinned. It was really crazy. Yeah, it was. I wouldn't mind that Tuttle coming back, but back to my point, I think it's crowded. And thus we have Becky and Lyra and Bailey all competing for the IC title. I don't know who will win that. I. So if I don't know, I usually just say, the champ will retain. Yeah, that's probably what will happen. Becky will retain, and then she'll taunt Lyra and Bailey, and it will be what it will be, and then it Will be like, oh, whatever. You know, like, nobody, really. I don't really care as much about that feud. [01:07:49] Speaker A: I'm just so tired of seeing Bailey and Lyra Valkyria, like, argue with each other. It's like, shouldn't you be fighting other people? Like, I don't really. I don't know. [01:07:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [01:08:01] Speaker A: It would be like if Captain America and Iron man never stopped fighting. You know, it was like, what are we watching? They made, like, another movie, Civil War, Captain America versus Iron Man. And it's like, I just saw this. [01:08:13] Speaker B: Except it's narrated by Bill Goldberg. [01:08:17] Speaker A: Well, now you got. Now you got something. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, maybe Gunther retired him to become, like, a movie narrator. That would be something. I mean, Bill Goldberg show. [01:08:28] Speaker A: Nat Goldberg wants to watch fishing shows at home. You know, he wants to fall asleep on the couch drooling all over his newspaper. [01:08:35] Speaker B: You know, I actually found, like, Goldberg's car segment on Monday last Raw. It made me get curious about what he was driving. So unintentionally, I found this show. It's called Goldberg's Garage. I'll send it to you. But he's got a badass garage, actually. He's got, like. He's got, like, 20 cars, and all of them have their own garage door. And he's like, they're all about five feet apart, garage doors. And he's like, that's so I can make a quick exit and come in whenever I want, and I don't need to move my car to exit. It's really interesting. Like, okay, go work. Yeah. [01:09:15] Speaker A: What a weird bit of trivia. [01:09:16] Speaker B: It is. It is. It is. I'll send it to you. You probably won't want to watch it. [01:09:21] Speaker A: But I'll probably take, like, a quick look and shake my head and move on with my life. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's about right. [01:09:27] Speaker A: Fucking Goldberg, man. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Do you think Goldberg could handle this next match? Could he narrate this shit? He should become a commentator. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Well, Tiffany. What? Tiffy time? [01:09:39] Speaker B: Yeah, Tiffy. [01:09:41] Speaker A: Trish Stratus. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I've seen this match, like, four times already, too. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Well, Trish is, like, old. She's about to turn 50, and she's been around the business forever. [01:09:53] Speaker A: Is she the one that was wearing the. The rhinestone baseball cap? [01:09:57] Speaker B: I think so. Yeah. [01:09:59] Speaker A: She's cool. They had Liv Morgan come out and yell at her that wouldn't know. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I like her way better than Tiffy Time. Yeah, she's, like, actually a. A legendary, like, diva or whatever they call them now. Like, woman wrestler. [01:10:15] Speaker A: But I like her. She's cool. [01:10:17] Speaker B: I wouldn't mind her winning. But then again, like, we saw the formula here. They're not gonna give love to the old guys unless it's John Cena. [01:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah. I think Tiffy time is still fucking relevant. So it's just whatever you're going with. [01:10:32] Speaker B: They put Tiffy over. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:36] Speaker B: All right. Tiffy. Okay. Yeah. [01:10:40] Speaker A: I don't think Trish Stratus is, like, gonna come back a lot. That's the thing, you know? [01:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. She won't come back enough to defend it unless it's like, that's why they. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Had Roman Reigns lose, you know? [01:10:52] Speaker B: Well, I could. Yeah. Because they needed him to go or he wanted to go away for a while. [01:10:57] Speaker A: He's doing the Street Fighter movie, so. [01:11:00] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. But with Tris. Trish, maybe what they'll do, actually, maybe they'll have her win this one and then lose it immediately at SummerSlam. That's the only way I can see it going. Really? Like, if Trish wins, she's not holding it very long. [01:11:16] Speaker A: I'll see you at SummerSlam. Okay, then. What's this? Is this the 414 thing? [01:11:21] Speaker B: Yes. Raquel Rodriguez and Roxanne versus all those. Oh, Charlotte Flairs with Alexa Bliss. Interesting. Okay. [01:11:31] Speaker A: That's right. [01:11:33] Speaker B: What? [01:11:34] Speaker A: That's Ric Flair's daughter, right? [01:11:35] Speaker B: Yes. I. I can. Pretty much. My gut is telling me the Kabuki warriors are definitely gonna win this. [01:11:42] Speaker A: It's because they are so cool. Like, people want to see them win, you know? Asuka, Asuka and Carrie Sane. [01:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah, they are cool. I love the whole pirate thing. [01:11:53] Speaker A: It's Carrie's thing. Yeah. She's the pirate. [01:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:11:58] Speaker A: Asuka dresses like an oni. [01:12:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:02] Speaker A: Just that wild face paint. She's cool, man. She's really neat. [01:12:05] Speaker B: She really is. Yeah. I think you. You're in agreement here that they put the Kabuki warriors over. [01:12:12] Speaker A: Yeah. Especially, I mean, like, I like Raquel and I like Roxanne, but, you know, I just, like, think the Judgment Day, it's not really, you know. [01:12:22] Speaker B: Yeah, we get. We gotta just move. [01:12:24] Speaker A: I think they gave them Raquel because they really need something besides, like, Liv Morgan. But, like, you know. [01:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:33] Speaker A: You still kind of. [01:12:35] Speaker B: I would say. Yeah. If I had to rank the odds of this mat and it's all these rankings because obviously it's predetermined, but. [01:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:12:45] Speaker B: Kabuki warriors would be my one that they put over number one. I'd say that's fairly clear with my gut. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Well, they they just made them the Kabuki Warriors. They kind of want them to shine, right? [01:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah, they. They used to be the Kabuki Warriors. They put them back together. [01:13:03] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. Yeah. [01:13:05] Speaker B: Now I feel like number two would be Raquel and Roxanne defending it. Like, I don't. I don't see the other two teams. Like, I don't see any point of putting them over, you know, but I could see, like, they're trying to boost Roxanne, you know? [01:13:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:22] Speaker B: And maybe that's why they would put them over. But, yeah, I. I can't. I can't see it going. E. Like, Kabuki warriors is my clear. Number one clear. Number two is Raquel and Roxanne and everybody else is just, like, all. [01:13:41] Speaker A: For women's title match. Well, who's in it? [01:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah, Like, I can't even. I can't even remember who's in it, to be honest. But my dark horse. My dark horse is actually Ivy. [01:13:56] Speaker A: Ivy, yeah. Evolution. [01:13:58] Speaker B: I. I think I could see they. I think it's kind of a long shot, but I could see them in some universe putting Ivy over to, like, boost her. Boost American made. Because, like, they need a boost without Chad Gable. Like, they're just like. You can tell they want to do something with them, but they're like, what do we do with these guys? And Ivies, like. Like, the clear cut, like, leader when Chad's not there. I wonder if they'll have El Grande Americano actually do anything with them. In reality, like, it's Ludwig Kaiser, as we said. But, yeah, I'm detracting a little bit from the Battle Royale, but, yeah, that's my. That's my dark horse. And quite frankly, I can't think of who's actually in the Battle Royale. [01:14:48] Speaker A: I don't know who else. And I just tried to look real fast, and I couldn't find anything, and I'm just like, well, if they don't care, then why should I care? You know? [01:14:55] Speaker B: Exactly. So I'm. I'm going with Ivy winning by default. [01:14:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll go with Ivy, too. Fuck it. I want to see Ivy win. Let the Pitbull win. [01:15:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that would be cool. All right, now this looks good. Jade Cargill versus Naomi. [01:15:11] Speaker A: Naomi's a bad bitch. I like Jade a lot, but, you know, hey, Naomi's Mrs. Money in the bank, too. [01:15:19] Speaker B: She is, yeah. Yeah, she is. She's money in the bank, and then Jade is queen of the ring, so that's interesting. But you can tell that there's going to be no cash in. Well, maybe there can be a cash in, I think. I don't know if they were trying to play the element of surprise too. Like there's going to be no cash in because they're already in a match and they'll be tired. But blah, blah, blah. But yeah, who knows? [01:15:49] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:15:51] Speaker B: I don't think. Okay. Sorry. [01:15:53] Speaker A: Nah, it's okay. I. I will say the Naomi and Jade drama, that was like the last bit of real drama they did for the women's division, you know? [01:16:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. [01:16:04] Speaker A: That was cool. [01:16:05] Speaker B: I would say. Yeah. If I had to pick. I don't know. I think they're building Jade right now, to tell you the truth. I think because Naomi, like, she can actually lose a bunch and it's okay because she has that money in the bank thing, she can just pull that out of her ass in theory, whenever she wants. Just like Seth freakin Rollins. It's okay that if his knee injury sublux puts him on the ice for a few months. I mean, if it's a torn ACL or something, that's a different story. But like, right, if, if he sprained his knee or whatever, then whatever, like he can sit and be fine. He can more. It will be like, when is Seth coming and claiming his title match? Like, that's what we'll all wonder. [01:16:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, I think you're right. I'll agree. I think that I think they'll let Jade win. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Jade's gonna win. And then that brings us to nxt. I'm gonna be honest. I don't know either of these ladies. [01:17:05] Speaker A: I don't watch nxt. I'm so sorry. [01:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel bad. This is where Matt could help us. [01:17:11] Speaker A: Well, I'm sure, I'm sure he'll have some insights, you know, when we eventually talk about evolution with him. [01:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. When we talk about evolution with him. Let me look these two up. Actually, I'm curious. Maybe I'll try to make a prediction based on. [01:17:27] Speaker A: Based on what they look like. [01:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Or if I can get some cursory. [01:17:32] Speaker A: Things, I know who they are. Just click, just click the thing on the page. Okay, well, I know who the one is. Jordan. Whatever. We suck. [01:17:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:44] Speaker A: J.C. jane, I know who that is. I'm pretty sure that's Jake. [01:17:48] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So she's the current champion. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's the brunette. [01:17:57] Speaker B: Grace won the Olympic. Okay. I'm gonna say Jordyn Grace wins. I don't know why not? [01:18:05] Speaker A: She does look pretty scary. [01:18:07] Speaker B: She does. She'd eat. She'd take my lunch money and eat it at the same time. [01:18:13] Speaker A: Yeah. J.C. jane looks like someone I would have dated in high school. [01:18:17] Speaker B: So, you know, but you know what? I'm gonna. It doesn't look like J.C. jane's been champ that long, so I'm. I'm gonna. I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna say J.C. jane retains. All right? [01:18:29] Speaker A: Okay. [01:18:30] Speaker B: Yeah. J.C. jane retains. So in final, here's my picks. Jason, that they put over J.C. jane, they put over Gade Cargill, they put over Naomi. Ivy wins the battle royale by default of. Let's see, then we got the Kabuki warriors winning the tag. And then I have. I'll do. I'll do Trish. Trish beats Tiffy. I don't know if I made that clear, actually, for. And she'll lose it at SummerSlam. [01:19:03] Speaker A: SummerSlam. [01:19:04] Speaker B: Jade. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Okay. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And then that would really build Jade Cargill, actually, because then it shoot up beyond, like a meteoric rise. Like, she would be like a old legendary person. Kind of like what they did with Logan Paul and Rey Mysterio. [01:19:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:23] Speaker B: So I see something like that coming. Thank you. Go ahead. [01:19:27] Speaker A: No, no, no. Keep talking. [01:19:29] Speaker B: No, no, no. I was just gonna go to the next match, but I think you had something to say about this last one. [01:19:34] Speaker A: All I was saying was that I think that that's a pretty good prediction. I mean, that's something, right? It's. It's a narrative arc, you know? [01:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then I got Becky lynch beating the other two because, like, what the fuck else are they gonna do? And then I got Rhea reclaiming her title. [01:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah. I actually think that Liar of Valkyria is going to take that title. [01:19:59] Speaker B: I could see that. [01:20:00] Speaker A: Bailey's going to be all pissy about it, and Becky lynch will just be. Just be seething over it, you know? [01:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I could see that too. The only reason I picked Becky is because Bailey and Lyra are such a toss up to me. I think we want to continue have them feuding. You're right. But maybe if Becky wins it, then that's more of a reason to just squash this now and move on. But if one of the other two wins it, then Becky will about it, and then the other one will certainly not be happy with the result. [01:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:33] Speaker B: Yeah. In the whole universe of what is WWE Universe. Yeah. It's not. It's all to begin with. [01:20:42] Speaker A: It's Tiffy time. Tiffy time. Tiffy time. This is your Brutality. [01:20:51] Speaker B: My God. Yeah. [01:20:53] Speaker A: Good times. [01:20:55] Speaker B: Good times indeed. [01:20:57] Speaker A: Goldberg. [01:20:59] Speaker B: What a. What a sad match. I think I've moved past it a little bit now in the time we've talked about it. Like, I am ready to five stages of grief. Yeah. Yeah. I'm ready to accept the result a little bit better. I mean. Yeah. I'm not surprised Gunther won. It was just such a painful match. Like, geez, man. It was like. It was like trying to walk your grandma down the aisle. I. I don't know, like, her. Get her situated in her seat or something. It just was not pretty. Like, Gunther probably was. Like, how do I, like, even get this guy to, like, you know, relax or be able to take a breather? Well, I kick his ass more. So that's why he had to, like, take the knee brace and run around with. I wonder if he just improv that because it was going so bad. [01:21:58] Speaker A: I didn't notice them whispering to each other. Like, with Rey Mysterio and Logan Paul, I saw them whispering to each other a lot. Mainly Mysterio telling him, like, this is what we're gonna do next, you know? [01:22:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:10] Speaker A: And, like, I wonder if there was some of that going on. [01:22:13] Speaker B: You know, I could see it, like, because it was, like, from what I've read, it was all. And you read it, too? Yeah, like, a few moments ago, 20 minutes ago. Whatever. Like, it was like, Gunther calling all the spots and telling Goldberg what to do, basically, how to salvage the. This show. Like, he. [01:22:37] Speaker A: It's pretty unfortunate. [01:22:38] Speaker B: I. Yeah. I can't wait to see Bra, though. I just want to see what the Gunther will say. [01:22:43] Speaker A: I think he's gonna say some mean stuff. Yeah. That's the job. He probably. You know, he loves it. [01:22:50] Speaker B: He does. Like, he. He's the. He really is the heel or the villain that Seth Rollins dreams of being. [01:22:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I. I like watching guys. [01:23:14] Speaker B: Man. Like, I would. I would be like, what would the world be like if you put Paul Heyman with Gunther? But it just wouldn't work. Like, he doesn't need Paul Heyman. Like, Gunther doesn't really need anybody. He can just stand on his own. [01:23:30] Speaker A: Apex predator. [01:23:32] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah. [01:23:34] Speaker A: Like, I. Maybe they. Maybe, like, they could bring what's his name back. Brock Lesnar back to fight Gunther, because he's also a giant monster, but I think he's good with his life. [01:23:44] Speaker B: You know, it might be. There is actually Paul Heyman and Brock Lesnar are very close in real life, too, supposedly. And they're. There was this interview with Paul Heyman, like, when Is he coming back? He's like, I wouldn't count on him coming back anytime soon. Who knows that by being secretly always coming back for SummerSlam? I doubt it. But it's funny. Like, I heard that, like, Paul Heyman's like the godfather of two of Brock Lesnar's kids. That's pretty tight. If that's true. [01:24:18] Speaker A: I wouldn't. I wouldn't trust fucking Paul Heyman with like a jelly sandwich, you know, a jelly donut. Donut. I wouldn't trust him to watch. Watch a house plant. [01:24:33] Speaker B: Could you imagine him drawing up the match card for ecw? He's like, got a hokey in his hand or some kind of sandwich, and. [01:24:42] Speaker A: He'S just like, okay, who's here? Colbert, you're gonna spear. We need like a. We need like a funny name for Goldberg's half assed spear. Like, maybe it's like the broken javelin or something. Like, I don't know. That sounds kind of cool, actually. [01:24:59] Speaker B: I like it. The broken javelin. [01:25:02] Speaker A: I don't know. That's. That's kind of cool. I don't. Maybe he could be like the bent spear or something. I don't know. Because he doesn't actually leave the ground. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Chit spear. [01:25:10] Speaker A: Well, I guess on that note. [01:25:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:14] Speaker A: Watch wrestling. I guess. [01:25:17] Speaker B: Watch wrestling. If you need to have your retirement match, get it with Gunther. He'll help you through it. [01:25:23] Speaker A: Get it with Gunther. He'll do his damnedest God damn it. To make you look good. [01:25:29] Speaker B: But, you know, he was pissed in that match. I could tell. He's like, what the fuck am I doing here? [01:25:35] Speaker A: Goldberg gave a sad, sad speech at the end that abruptly cut out because the credits started rolling. [01:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. That was sad. They're like, no, not enough time for you, Goldberg. You're Oldberg work. [01:25:49] Speaker A: We wasted all our. All our time on Jimmy uso. [01:25:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that was garbage. Yeah, most of the events sucked. Yeah, the Saturday night main event sucked. I built it up to be way too much. [01:26:02] Speaker A: You pulled a Chris. You got all excited over nothing. [01:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah, what's there to be excited over now after other than Uncle Howdy? [01:26:10] Speaker A: That's it. [01:26:12] Speaker B: I want Goldberg. I want Gunther and Uncle Howdy. [01:26:15] Speaker A: You're gonna have to buy Peacock to watch Uncle Howdy now, you know. [01:26:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna have. I don't know what I'm gonna do or pray to go to Netflix or something. They. They purpose. They purposely put Uncle Howdy on Smackdown so people have a reason to watch it. [01:26:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Smackdown seems like the more fun show. I don't really get it, but. [01:26:36] Speaker B: Oh, well, yeah, because I don't want to be subjected to Judgment Day. And Oldberg. [01:26:44] Speaker A: Oh, well, guess that's that. [01:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah, well, everybody watch evolution. Hire me. [01:26:52] Speaker A: Hire? [01:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll write software for you. It's like, Goldberg, I'll wrestle for you.

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