Summer Slam 2025!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: We just saw SummerSlam. [00:00:03] Speaker B: SummerSlam. [00:00:05] Speaker A: So how are you doing, Greg? [00:00:06] Speaker B: Oh, man, I'm. I'm shocked by the results. Yeah, I have no fear of giving spoilers at this point right now. [00:00:17] Speaker A: Are you ridiculous? [00:00:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:00:20] Speaker A: The day after. No. So, I mean, I gotta say, since Evolution, these events have really picked up, you know? [00:00:27] Speaker B: Yeah. You're not kidding. I mean, even it's funny. I guess it's because. So with the, with those intros that the people do. I know, like WrestleMania, you're gonna get the best intro, but not everybody's going to be able to participate in WrestleMania. But I see, like, AJ Styles took advantage of, you know, participating in the second biggest event, SummerSlam, with that nice lowrider he came out in. That was awesome. I liked Naomi's dad playing guitar. That was pretty cool too. So, I mean, they. They all made interesting moments of it. I mean, for me, if I had to encapsulate it in a single picture, I. Yeah, I guess the beast coming back is obviously going to overshadow everything, but damn, if I could take one image, I would probably have John Cena holding Cody Rhodes up, riding up the elevator. Like, that was pretty epic to see, actually. Like, I'm like, wow, this. This should be the thumbnail of Summer Slam. I don't know what the thumbnail of SummerSlam is, actually. [00:01:54] Speaker A: That was gonna be what I said. Like, him coming up the elevator. Like, after Cody Rhodes ran in there to get a. Catch his breath and Cena ran after him and he just comes up holding him. Fucking brutal. Fucking crazy. Then he threw him on the steel concourse. They said that, like, it's, It's. It's built to take ambulances. Like, you do not want to be thrown on that. I know you also threw the steel stairs at the. The steel steps at him too. Like. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Ah, yeah, Yeah, I, Well, I kind of wonder how if those steps are really steel or it's made to look like steel. [00:02:32] Speaker A: They don't bend. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I, I do appreciate what these people do, like erecting and taking down this. Damn. Like, all of the theatrics and guerrilla unit. I'm. I'm stealing the term from the Netflix special, but yeah, like, that's impressive. And, like, it's not just for, like, you know, if you're an NFL team, for example, you do it weekly, but these guys are doing it like, two times a week at least with Raw and Smackdown. And then if you want to throw NXT in there and all these ppls, it's just so exhausting. And then if you have like a NFL stadium, it's already prepared to play football in, but nothing is prepared to wrestle in. It's just. It's just so much work to do this at the stadium. And you know what I found out that's also impressive. I'll get off my tangent in a second, but the refs actually are the ones doing a lot of this stuff, so they're not just paid to, you know, count the falls. And then we saw, like, they're also. They intervene and get special instructions from Triple H and tell what the wrestlers to do. But yeah, I, I read they get like paid like, I mean, it's a decent salary, but it's probably for all the work they do. I probably want to be paid more like 84k a year to do all that. I'm like, geez, that is a lot of work for that money. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I love Summer Slam, though. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Summer Slam was great. I even like Dirty Dom, who's. Who usually sucks really hard. That whole thing where he. Where he tricked the ref into turning around so he can grab a chair and then he. He banged the chair on the ground and dropped it and made it look like AJ Styles hit him with the chair. And AJ Styles was like, oh, fuck. So he picked up the chair, put it over his head and laid down. That was great. That was like. It was terrible. It was schlock, but I loved it. [00:04:42] Speaker B: But that's. But that's Dirty Dom's MO, right? Yeah, he, He's. He reminds me more like they keep talking about Eddie Guerrero when Dirty Dom is wrestling. He does remind me more of Eddie Guerrero than his dad. Rey Mysterio is obviously Dom's biological dad, but other than the 619, I would have no idea. But, but Eddie Guerrero, like, his theme song was we lie, we cheat, we steal. He came out to that and like, that's dirty. Dumb. He lies, he cheats, he steals. And I guess, like, yeah, I'm starting. Like, that was kind of an impressive performance. Like, yeah, we're never gonna be wowed by his, like, in ring ability, I guess. But I guess what you fall in love with about his character is he's creative. Like, he creatively figures out ways to retain his title and cheat in the match, if you want to call it that. So, yeah, props the Dirty Dom. That was a. That was a fun match. I loved when he loosened his boot too. AJ Styles had it locked in and then the boot falls off. [00:05:59] Speaker A: It comes off and it's like, what? And then it's like oh, no, he has the boot now. He can attack with the boot. [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was wild. Yeah, these were some great matches, actually. And I, I, I even liked Lyra and Becky. That's how good things were. And now I'm kind of. Now I'm kind of like, all right, I like Lyra. I'll give her that. [00:06:24] Speaker A: I like Lyra Valkyria a lot. I just feel like this thing with Becky lynch is so tired. Like, I'm so tired of watching it. Like, it was fun to watch. I was on the Internet, and I saw something happen that I think aew where Becky lynch zip tied Lyra's hands. [00:06:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That really happened. [00:06:44] Speaker A: But she broke out. But then she put her hands back because. Oh, no, that's not the spot. And. Come on. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Well, that, that. Okay, that was weird. I saw that too. So I. I watched it again this morning, and I saw. What was it? Yeah, she broke out. And then the Wade or whatever his name is, is like, oh, my God. Lyra broke out. And then. And then it got weird because I was like, I. Yeah, I saw it on their own replay. She was free and broke out. But then she was. But then he was like, I thought she had gotten out, but I guess she hadn't. And, like, that's how they gotta roll with what's happening. [00:07:31] Speaker A: He can't say what's really, you know, like. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Yeah, well, the interesting thing is, like, some of these commentators aren't told ahead of time. I don't know how much of the commentator knows, but, like, some of the refs aren't told ahead of time. Some of the medical personnel aren't told ahead of time. Where these works happen to make the acting that they have to give look more authentic. Because let's face it, these guys aren't necessarily a list actors. [00:07:59] Speaker A: They also forget a lot, you know? [00:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Even if they are told ahead of time, you know how much stuff happens. Like, just watching Rhea go through her set with Damian Priest during Unreal, like, it's crazy how many spots they have to remember. [00:08:14] Speaker B: I know. That's crazy. Well, that. That's. That's the beauty of Gunther. And we got to give some love to Gunther here. Even though he got robbed or whatever. Well, I mean, I guess CM Punk fairly beat him fair and square. CM Punk was more of who got robbed. But in regards to Gunther, like, there's an interview with Goldberg. I'll send it to you. But he just kept complimenting what a performer he was, and he basically was guiding Goldberg through the entire Match. It's funny if you compare and contrast Gunther's last two matches, like the one with CM Punk, that's a classic. Probably. But then if you compare it to the Goldberg one, like, he really had to help Goldberg through it. And like, I know, yeah, everybody thinks it's such a great match because it's a 15 minute Goldberg match. That's probably like his longest match ever. But that's only because the ring general guided him through it. [00:09:18] Speaker A: He like held the ring to taunt him for a while. He's like, ah, look what I got. His leg brace. [00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:09:30] Speaker A: Do people actually like that match or like, do they sound like us where we're like, why did this happen? [00:09:37] Speaker B: I think they're. They're satisfied with it, but I feel like they went in with low expectations, if that makes sense. [00:09:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:46] Speaker B: Like, nobody was expecting the old Goldberg, but even the old Goldberg wasn't that good. Like, that's the iron. Like, he was good at what he did. Like, he was the two minute man. [00:09:58] Speaker A: He was simple thing to be good at. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah, he would just dick around for a little bit and then eventually he would spear you and jackhammer you and the match would be over and everybody would be excited. I. Looking back, that's kind of silly that everybody got so excited about that. But yeah, I. I guess. [00:10:19] Speaker A: So do you think that that goes through was actually bleeding or do you think that was a work? [00:10:23] Speaker B: I don't know. You know what they. The thing is, like, I think it depends where he's bleeding. They used to put like razor blades in the guy's hair to stimulate the bleed, apparently. So if a guy got whacked in the head, like the razor would hit his head and then he'd start bleeding. And then actually if you look at a interview by Dave Bautista, I think like his head is like all like cratered up from the times he bled and stuff. And he talks about it. I think it's him. And there's also this guy Maven you should listen to. But yeah, I. I don't know. I. I really don't know. It's tough because how would he actually have bled? Yeah, he hit the table hard. But I. I don't know. I can't think of a way that they were preparing to have him bleed. [00:11:23] Speaker A: Like, I feel like when he, when he made Jimmy Uso bleed too, that was also a work. Like I. [00:11:28] Speaker B: Come on. Yeah, that was a work. It probably was a work. A lot of the stuff is like unbelievable, but it's. It really is amazing that people are memorizing like 30 minute long matches, all the choreography and like, shit. The Cody Rhodes John Cena match was almost like an hour. [00:11:47] Speaker A: So that's, that was like Godzilla versus King Kong, man. They threw each other around like ragdolls. [00:11:55] Speaker B: I, that was insane. I'm so happy that I made it back to see the end of that because that was ridiculous. Like the last night. Yeah. Peacock troubles aside, I get back and I'm like, oh, thank God it's still playing. And I see Cena and Cody, like chasing each other around, like ringside. And then they go into the crowd and I'm like, shit. And then that, that elevator thing was just so iconic though. [00:12:28] Speaker A: It was good. It was good. What. So forgive my ignorance. What, what mask was Cody Rhodes wearing when he came up out of the elevator? [00:12:36] Speaker B: You know, I don't actually know what that's called. I always just thought of it as like his American Nightmare mask. What? I'm gonna look that up now because it will bother me. [00:12:49] Speaker A: We're real experts here, you know. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, we're both not as familiar with him because he wrestles on smackdown, although he goes on Raw quite a bit, so. Right. Yeah. I don't know if it has a name, to tell you the truth. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Like, it was a cool entrance. It was neat, you know? [00:13:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Everything I see, like, the only person that tried to name it, they put it on ebay and they just called it the Winged Skull mask. [00:13:21] Speaker A: Okay, so it doesn't have like a name. All right. But it is his thing. I wasn't sure if it was a reference to something because his father wasn't like a character like that, you know, his father was kind of a wacky wrestler, you know. [00:13:32] Speaker B: Well, yeah, his dad was the American Dream and he's the American Nightmare, so. So that's kind of cool parlay, but. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. Yeah. For sure. For sure. I really enjoyed the Gunther versus a CM Punk match. I thought it was great. Of course, Seth Rollins coming out on crutches and throwing the crutches aside. That was pretty cool that, that was in the moment. I was pretty pissed off because I, you know, I got tricked because I didn't think it was a work, but everything's a work, you know? [00:14:05] Speaker B: Everything's a work. Yeah, Yeah, I, yeah, I, I, I thought it was suspicious. I still can't figure out what's going on with that. Like, I, I don't know. Like, okay, here's what bothers me about a lot of this. Like, like, some of these works are just A little cringe. And, and, and it used to be way worse, like, Triple H, like, pretending to be Kane, like, molesting a naked body. That was, that was like, that was like a long time ago, but that was pretty up. Anyway, this is up in the sense, like, there's no, like, medical integrity with it, I suppose. Like, I would be more fine if it was like, you know, he saw the. Well, he's gonna see the doctor. But then he names, like, a specific doctor, Dr. Dougas or whatever his name is. The person they showed on the Netflix doing Charlotte Flair's ACL surgery. And I'm like, I don't know. And then what really bothered me is I did watch like, some of the post show on Saturday of Saturday. And then Triple H is just like, like, yeah, these false medical reports, we're gonna have to discipline Seth for that. And I'm like, dude, that's so stupid to say. We all know you're the one making these. Making this bullshit stuff up. But yeah, I. I don't know. I. I'm impressed. So on two fold, that's such a. [00:15:42] Speaker A: Stupid thing to say because, like, Seth Rollins, he doesn't just lie to Triple H and be like, my doctor said all my knees broken. And then what? He shows up at the, at the stadium and goes chew my music up. He's hobbling up like, no, it all has to be planned ahead of time. They got to get the pyrotechnics ready. They got to get his name on the, on the screen. He doesn't just come out and everything happens automatically. Like, it's obviously planned and staged. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, the. [00:16:12] Speaker A: We're not eight years old. [00:16:14] Speaker B: The only argument you can make there is that he was that maybe if you. Obviously it's all planned in stage, but the. From, from the made up, you know, fantasy world is that maybe Seth told Triple H, I'm just gonna come to taunt CM Punk. Because that's how they acted initially. It's like, and then here's Rollins to taunt CM Punk with the briefcase. He has a year to cash in. And then he was like. Then he was like, pretending to walk away. And then magically he drops the crutches. [00:16:49] Speaker A: I loved it. I thought it was cool. [00:16:52] Speaker B: It. It was. But like, yeah, some. Some people saw it coming from a mile away. See, I think what I. With. With Seth Rollins, like, I would expect him to cash in at any point. No, no, nothing would surprise me with Seth Rollins. What got me was when Naomi cashed in for. Against IO And Ria finally beat her. [00:17:18] Speaker A: And then Naomi comes out like the juggernaut. [00:17:22] Speaker B: I know. And then. [00:17:24] Speaker A: That was cool. That was cool. It was heartbreaking for me because I want Raya to win, but. And then Naomi is a great villain for Raya and IO to face down. And possibly Stephanie, because she seems to be joining that little Amazon trinity, you know? [00:17:39] Speaker B: Well, Stephanie's got the next shot at her, I believe, because Clash of Paris is when she has it, and I think that's the next Premium Live event, so. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Right. [00:17:49] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, I. I think. Yeah. It's a shame. I. I like Naomi. It's good that it's bittersweet that she won. I want to see. I definitely want Ria to have it over IO a little torn between Naomi and Ria, because Naomi deserves some time, too, I think. [00:18:08] Speaker A: I agree. I like her. She's a great performer. She's. She's very sexy. She's very talented, and she's a good character, you know? And I like her outfits. I like the whole caution tape motif, you know? [00:18:20] Speaker B: Yeah. That's awesome. I have to say. [00:18:23] Speaker A: Good heel. She's a very good heel. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Naomi's a great heel. So. Yeah, I. I liked that match. It didn't have the luster that evolution had, or evolution as, like, that Wade guy would say. Evolution. [00:18:41] Speaker A: I love him. I love him. He takes everything so seriously. [00:18:45] Speaker B: I know. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Yeah, the Uncle Howdy clip, where he's. [00:18:49] Speaker B: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:18:50] Speaker A: And he's like. He is saying, finish it, but finish it the way I want you to finish it. [00:18:56] Speaker B: I know. Yeah, that. That. That's funny. [00:19:01] Speaker A: It's great. [00:19:03] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Speaking of Uncle Howdy, like, yes. [00:19:08] Speaker A: At the. The Tag Team Giant cluster. [00:19:12] Speaker B: Okay. Is it sad? I can't. I can't name anybody in that other than the Wyatt six. Like, I. Everybody else. Oh, the street profits. [00:19:22] Speaker A: Are there three profits? Motor City, whatever. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:19:28] Speaker A: Smackdown. It's not on Netflix. [00:19:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we can't. We can't watch smackdown. It's not like they're taking. It's not like they're taking on your boys. The new Day. [00:19:38] Speaker A: No, those are Chris's favorites. He was telling me the other day that he started watching and he loves the new day. And I'm like, bro, you got problems. Like, you know. [00:19:47] Speaker B: Yeah. He really loved how they were taking that. Papa John's last slice. [00:19:55] Speaker A: He is such a shill. I don't understand him. He's such a douchebag. [00:19:59] Speaker B: What the real question is if they're in North Jersey and they're across the river from New York. Why are they eating Papa John's? They should be eating some real New York pizza, you know? [00:20:12] Speaker A: I agree. I agree. Like, I'll bet the New Day went out of their way to not get a good pizza sponsor, you know? [00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Papa John's because it sucks. And of course, Chris loves Papa John's because he's a fucking shell. You know, it's. [00:20:26] Speaker B: It's quite sad. I'll make this short, but in Seattle, there is, like, no good pizza, and sometimes your best bet is papas. It's all corporation. They. They sold out to the corporation, so they'll eat Papas. Even if they're in New York or freaking Italy, they'll eat Papa John's. [00:20:48] Speaker A: That's pretty sad. That's actually pretty sad. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Much like the new day. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Yes. Can't stand the new day. I can't believe they're still in mourning. And. Oh, that brings up the Judgment Day, man. They are just, like. They keep winning. We already talked a little bit about AJ and Dom. Dom retains. And then. Oh, I think. Did Raquel and Roxanne defend the titles? That was Saturday, right? [00:21:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker B: They. They succeeded again, I believe. Or. [00:21:29] Speaker A: Roxanne Perez is really, really awesome. And when Liv comes back from her injury, I don't know what's gonna happen to Roxanne, man, because, like, you know, Raquel usually teams up with Liv, and that's her role, so who knows what they'll do? They clearly wanted a bigger push because when Nikki Bella came out to, like, give her speech about being an influential woman or whatever, they had. They had Liv come out and Kayfabe like, her be her being all mad at her for not naming her or something, and then she got hurt, like, the next match. So maybe Roxanne was supposed to take Liv's place and Liv was supposed to, you know, step up. I don't know. [00:22:08] Speaker B: Well, yeah, they. They. They won. And that was. That was a pretty good match. And they were showing, like. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Oh, you mean Alexa Bliss and Charlotte Flair beat Roxanne and Raquel and Roxanne. Yeah, that was a great match. I love. I love Alexa Bliss. She does the. She does the sister Abigail. [00:22:30] Speaker B: I know. I hope that means she's coming to Raw or whatever, because that's a Raw title. And hopefully the whole Wyatt six comes to Raw. That would be my dream, because. But it might get too busy on there if they bring all these people on, you know, that's the only thing. Yeah, I don't. [00:22:50] Speaker A: I really hate that smackdown is a month behind on Peacock, but whatever, whatever, whatever, nerd, you know? [00:22:58] Speaker B: Well, we'll see if Netflix helps us fix that soon. Yeah, so that was a good match. I'm just going through the results now. Carrying Cross, my boy, he, we knew he was gonna lose to Sami Zayn because, like, yeah, Sammy's just, I don't know, they won't give him, like, another big push, it seems like, but they'll make him, like, undefeated in, like, the low card mid card title spots. [00:23:30] Speaker A: You know, I think it's funny that he, he, he, he only beat Karrion Kross because he rejected the pipe, which would have led him to the dark side, huh? Therefore, he had a, he had a moral victory which allowed him to win, which is like, it's like Star wars writing, like, the pipe. He could have just used the pipe to beat this guy up and get revenge and then never did it again. But, you know, it's this like, thundercats level writing, you know? [00:23:59] Speaker B: Exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's like he, man, you know, I, I, yeah, I agree. So I guess, man, does this mean that Karrion Kross is done for in scarlet? Like, they're not gonna resign because, like, basically the deal was, like, if Sammy won, he would have to leave him alone, and if Sammy lost, he would have to say Cross was telling the truth. [00:24:28] Speaker A: Some real high stakes here, you know? You know, it's a lot like the Seth Rollins, like, Mishugas, where he's here, he's gonna dominate, but all that means is he just wants the title. Like, what happens next? Not much, really. You know, like, it's like a microcosm of that, you know? [00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it kind of is. Like, yeah, once you have the title, where, where do you establish your legacy from there? I can kind of answer that. I think CM Punk can answer that. If you hear him in, like, real interviews, like, he, he. You want to talk about Bret Hart being bitter? I mean, Bret Hart, I don't blame him. Like, like, the company basically killed his brother, tried to keep the pay per view going after he died, Goldberg ended his career, and there was the whole Montreal screw job thing where he thought he was gonna win and ended up losing kind of like. And that was actually. He had no idea that the result was supposed to be the opposite of what it was. But yeah, if you want to talk about people that are bitter, CM Punk was definitely bitter. He had that whole pipe bomb thing years ago. But I think the, the answer really above the championship to him is Who Main Events WrestleMania. It's not who Main Events SummerSlam, it's who Main events Mania. And there's so many interviews with him saying where like they tried to trick him. It's like, oh, it's a, it's a three part main event. That's what they tried to tell him once. [00:26:12] Speaker A: Well, we'll totally be there on the third day. It's going to be great. [00:26:15] Speaker B: It, well, it was supposed to be like three matches end the night and he was the first of the three. And then he like said, no, that's, you know, unless I'm the last match, then it's not a true main event. And he pushed back so much on that and he didn't even care that he lost the WrestleMania main event. He was just happy that he was there. Like, and you could see that back in the footage of WrestleMania, how he looks at the ground, he points up and all that stuff. Yeah, I, I think that's the next step for some of these champions, like Gunther in particular. I, I think it's kind of weird how much they don't highlight him. I'm glad that they had this heavyweight championship match at the end of the night. It main main evented the first night. You can obviously argue that the main event of the two nights was Cena versus Rhodes. But yeah, I, that, that was nice. I think the next step for Gunther is like probably like having a main event at WrestleMania for example. And he's, he's there, he's such a good performer. But yeah, that. It, that is quite crazy that I'm looking at how this match card is written. Full SummerSlam Saturday results. CM Punk defeats Gunther, new champion. And then right after that, World Heavyweight Championship match, Seth Rollins cashes in to defeat CM Punk, new champion. Yeah, it's crazy. I, you know, Saturday. [00:27:56] Speaker A: I like it though. So it's a fun parallel to what's going on in Marvel comics right now. Dr. Doom is currently the ruler of the Earth. They're doing an event called One World Under Doom. Dr. Doom basically gets the power of the Sorcerer supreme, which is Dr. Strange's thing, and uses that power and influence to make every country on Earth pledge fealty to him and come under Latveria's protectorship. So all the superheroes are like, what do we do? He's legitimately the ruler of the Earth now. Seth Rollins is the World Heavyweight Champion. And all of our characters with all their factions are like, huh, the Legion of Doom one, you know. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:38] Speaker A: So like, I don't know, do you? So getting into like, the, the fun stuff. Like, do you think that Brock Lesnar will join the Legion of Doom for. For the last four months of Cena's little, you know, retirement adventure? [00:28:55] Speaker B: That's a great question. Will he join the Legion of Doom? You mean the Legion of Doom being the Bronze and Seth and Heyman? Yeah. Yeah, I would love to see it. I, I. [00:29:07] Speaker A: And then Cena could join the get along gang with CM Punk, and, yeah, I could see that Penta and all. [00:29:14] Speaker B: All our friends, but I don't know if they're ever gonna. That would be interesting to write a script where Cena and CM Punk get along, because historically they don't. But I, Yeah, I, I could. I see tension with Brock joining that group. Like, I think Heyman would be delighted. He would be like a kid, like, in a candy store if he got Brock Lesnar back. [00:29:41] Speaker A: You're right, because Brock Lesnar was his boy, though. Like, I've seen those clips. I've seen at least two of those matches, you know. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he was his boy. Like, he. In fact, you know what's funny about Brock Lesnar in Leg. Like, you, you watch the Paul Heymon documentary, and Brock even appeared in it, and he's like, they were like, they wanted me to work with Paul Heymon to understand the industry and, you know, grow and this kind of stuff. And apparently the storyline came that, you know, Paul Heyman was telling Vince or somebody. It's like, oh, you gotta see this guy Brock. They're giving him all kinds of bad advice, and I'm telling him how it is. And then I think him or somebody else was like, all right, well, if that's the case, why don't you just work with Brock? And then that's how Heyman became, like, this guy that follows people to rings and he's their client or whatever. He's. I know. Like, he used to call them clients, and now. And he was like, amazing. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Isn't it amazing how things can change in the blink of an eye? [00:30:51] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. Now he went from the wise man to the oracle. Whatever. I mean, Brock Lesnar would probably be like, you're not my wise man or oracle. He'd get pissed at that. That I just, I have a hard time seeing Seth and Brock coexisting. That probably will have some tension. And then even Bron Breaker seems to be getting too big for his boots. So I think that's like a ticking time bomb. [00:31:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So you think it's like a ticking time bomb? [00:31:23] Speaker B: I do. Yeah. Because, like, Bron's Getting too big for his britches. And you had been saying you thought at some point there would be a betrayal. So I. I mean, the thing is. But here's the thing. Like, Seth is the visionary, right? He's supposed to be the guy that's too smart to fall for any of these traps and whatnot. So in some way, I feel like a storyline that might come from this is like, Bronn tries to betray Seth or Haman tries to betray Seth, and then he's already prepared for it. And what if he has, like, Brock Lesnar attack one of those guys? It would be pretty epic. I don't know. [00:32:10] Speaker A: It would. I'm just. My worry is that Cena still has a couple more appearances. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Brock Lesnar came out and totally trashed Cena after Cena had just lost to Cody Rhodes. And what if that's it? It's another little cul de sac? [00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Valkyria Bailey and stupid Becky lynch fighting endlessly over nothing. Over scraps. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Oh, I was just gonna interject. They can't fight anymore. There was a couple. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Right. Well, that just means that Bailey's gonna be Becky. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gonna be Bailey now. And Lyra will go back and forth. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Like someone else isn't gonna show up and beat up Becky Lynch. It's just those three. For some reason, I don't understand why there's no competition but an hour. Whatever. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Because the women's division is too top heavy. Like those other ladies, I think feel like they're too good for the Intercontinental championship. Yeah, it's kind of. Well, I don't know what's happened to Penta. They've given him, like, a push to get because he was in the Gauntlet match. But are they gonna have someone like Penta and La Knight, maybe chase Dirty Dom for the mid card title on the men's side? [00:33:30] Speaker A: I mean, I would like that, but La Knight seems too popular for that, so. [00:33:36] Speaker B: That's true. It does suck. Yeah. Tell me more about your cul de sac theory, though. Sorry, I caught in there. Like, what happens with Brock now? [00:33:47] Speaker A: Well, like, what if, like, every time John Cena has a match with someone that isn't connected to something, Brock Lesnar just comes out. Like, I'm blocked. Brock Lesnar, I'm here to ruin your day. John Cena, you know, like. And that's all that ever happens. He doesn't. He doesn't fall into the big Seth Rollins Jay USO Gunter saga. He's just there to be John Cena's nemesis. And John Cena's final retirement match is finally defeating Brock Lesnar. And it's like. Like, I'm. I'm worrying that it's just another cul de sac where that's all it is. [00:34:22] Speaker B: You know, I could see that. But at the same time, that would be a long build to that because, like, his final retirement match is rumored to be the Saturday. Saturday night main event again in December. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they need to just do that to make Goldberg happy, because then Goldberg will be like, I just got Saturday, my main event. And Srina gets, like, wrestlemania as his retire. I mean, he can't do wrestlemania as his retirement match because he said he's cutting it off after December. Like, he. We have the rest of the calendar year with him, basically. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Okay, okay, that makes sense. But, yeah, yeah, WrestleMania should be like, I understand. Like, Cena is awesome. I mean, this last match really drove home, like, this was him at his best, you know? [00:35:15] Speaker B: It was. That was a great match. [00:35:18] Speaker A: Last year's WrestleMania was, like, very disappointing. I felt bad even watching it, honestly, you know? And I don't know. [00:35:24] Speaker B: Between Cena and Rhodes. [00:35:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like, what's happening? He kept getting up and being like. Like, he kept leaving the ring. And I don't know if that was him trying to be a heel. Like, oh, look, it sucks. Look, See, I did the thing. I'm ruining wrestling this time. It was great. Like, they fucking went for it. Like, at one point, Rhodes tried to flip him and Cena dropped his legs and flipped him over. It was like, whoa, man. How the fuck did you just do that? And it's because he's really good. He's really big, he's really skilled. He's very athletic, and he can do things like, yeah, like, he does have a lot of boring matches, but that's because he can be boring, because people just love him, you know? [00:36:08] Speaker B: Right. That's true. Yeah, I agree. It was him at his best. It was impressive to see him pick him up like a rag doll and just throw him around. And then the strength to carry him, you know, down the ring ramp was impressive, too. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure. Like, I love how they acted like Cody was dead weight. We all know Cody was selling there. He was helping Cena get him up and whatnot. [00:36:43] Speaker A: That said, if you throw me on a steel concourse, I'm not getting back up. [00:36:47] Speaker B: No, no. [00:36:49] Speaker A: Steel chair at my face. I'm not getting back up. So. By the way, that's what was going on in the tag team clusterfuck. Like, there Were dudes getting hit in the face with chairs that were thrown. Thrown at them? Like, is that legal? Like, what the. I mean, I guess everything was legal there, but that's why Uncle Howdy showed up and just started punching people. [00:37:09] Speaker B: Well, that's. That's funny that you say that. Yeah, everything, at least in the match, was legal. Who. Maybe they were super embellishing. I. I mean, technically, I think you're not supposed to do the head shots anymore with the chairs because of the concussion concerns. But, yeah, I think Triple H was like, thank goodness no one got hurt in that match. [00:37:35] Speaker A: The lady got knocked out. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I watched. I watched part of the post show, too, and, like, I have no idea who those people were, but she won, like, some award for, like, falling off the ladder and all that stuff. And, like. [00:37:55] Speaker A: Like, it wasn't like, you almost died. [00:37:58] Speaker B: Yeah, there was, like. Yeah, there was this bald guy backstage. I think he wrestled in the match, and he just. They were, like, in the back getting interviewed, and he was just like, some lady could have died today. And then she's a mom. And he got real upset. It was, like a Goldberg moment. And they kept interviewing, and then he. And then he just. And he was just like, doc. He kept yelling for the doctor. The doctor came. I'm like, dude, your match was, like, hours ago. You all were in, like, a lot of pain when you really be in the hospital. I mean, yeah, that was. That was a dramatic sell. But, yeah, I get. Yeah, we all just need to know what we're, you know, swallowing here, I guess, when we watch wrestling, because a lot of it is obviously exaggerated. But, yeah, that was. That was awesome, that ladder. [00:39:00] Speaker A: It's important to note that, like, you're. You are a sports guy, but you're here for the wrestling cheese. You know, so am I. I'm not a sports guy at all. I come to see the ridiculous stuff and to see some fucking cool stunts and fights. The fact that they're scripted and they're not hitting each other that hard or as hard as they could, well, it allows them to do more. And also, I don't want to watch bloodsports personally. I want to watch these ridiculous feuds escalate into blows, and people get upset that they lost or whatever. I like the drama. And, yeah, you're right. People do need to understand what they're swallowing with wrestling. Oh, it's too ridiculous. Oh, Uncle Howdy is too stupid. I don't want to watch, you know, horror movie characters wrestling, and I'm like, oh, why are you here. [00:39:45] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's the thing. Like that. That's part of the novelty of it. Right? Like, if you wanted ufc, like, they make a big deal out of matches. [00:39:57] Speaker A: It's right there. Go watch it. [00:39:59] Speaker B: Yeah, but if you want to watch that, the. The caveat to that is you're. You're not going to be able to get it on. I believe, like, when they have a match, it's like a really big deal. Like, it's pay per view and all that kind of stuff. I don't know. I'm. [00:40:15] Speaker A: It's. It's because the men tear each other apart. I've watched some of Brock Lesnar's. Those are the only UFC's I've watched. And he's terrifying. Like, he is so powerful. Like, when you watch him unleashed, doing the Superman punt, that's when I. That was the first time I saw a Superman punch, was Brock Lesnar and a UFC match. And that guy was, like, floored. He got back up, but it was like, oh, my God, like, what the fuck am I watching here? That was pretty much the end of the fight, you know? [00:40:41] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, I. Well, that. That's. That's the thing about ufc, I guess, is what I'm saying. Like, they don't happen on as regular of a basis as the WWE matches, because if you wrestled like that every show, you, like, you'd have so many injuries, you. Your body won't have enough time to recover, etc. Etc. Everybody would be injured. So it wouldn't work. Right, right, right, right. [00:41:07] Speaker A: It wouldn't work. And also, it's. It's a different kind of spectacle. It's two men fighting each other pretty much to the death. They don't die, but they get really beat up. Like, there is a point where the fight ends, of course, but, like, do you really want to watch that? I don't. I want my wrestlers to be, like, superheroes. I want them to fight and work out their stuff, and then, like, it's resolved somehow and then come back next week to do it again. Because that's what I want to say. It's fun for me, you know? [00:41:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I couldn't agree more. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. The story is more exciting than anything else, and the fight is part of the story. So that's why, like, when it's just a match or whatever, I'm like, oh, God. You know, the Lyra and. Lyra and Becky thing, Like, it was fun when it started at WrestleMania, but, like, I don't know, man. Something else has to happen. We Need a. We need a surprise character or some new development. Anything. Like, give me anything. [00:42:04] Speaker B: That's. That's the funny thing. It's like, you get these new NXT people. Yeah. You could have, in theory, put Stephanie Vacair in the middle of all that instead of. But they were just like, oh, no, Stephanie's special. We're escalating her, pushing her right away. So. I don't know. [00:42:24] Speaker A: She's too hot, she's too skilled, she's too lovable. It's just. Yeah. [00:42:30] Speaker B: You know what? If Cross stays around, maybe Scarlet will finally get in the mix for the Intercontinental Championship. [00:42:40] Speaker A: You really think she's gonna do anything? [00:42:42] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, Scarlett looks like she's built, like, a way where she could be a good wrestler, but I've never seen her wrestle. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Anything, man. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Let me see if I can find some clip of her wrestling. But, yeah, I. I don't know, man. It. You're right. The Becky Lyra thing is tired. At least now there's that clause that they can't challenge each other. So that either means we're gonna get way too much Bailey and Becky or they're finally gonna introduce somebody else. I don't know what it will be. [00:43:20] Speaker A: I mean, hey, I'm open to it. You know, they. They surprise us. They waste our time for a while, and then they surprise us. You know, hopefully there's no more Oldberg, you know, shenanigans coming. [00:43:30] Speaker B: Well, you know what? I also want gone and the damn, like, Jelly Roll stuff. Like, I'm just not really fascinated by it at all. [00:43:41] Speaker A: It's just gotta go. He's gotta go. He sucks. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I give him credit for a rapper. He didn't look bad in there or whatever the hell he does. Country artist, rapper. I'm not sure. [00:43:52] Speaker A: I don't give a. He's gotta go. I. Look, I am. I like Logan Paul as a heel. I think Chris is a big fan of him because Chris likes all the things that suck. But. He's a. But, yeah, that's the thing. That's the thing. Like, Jelly Roll. I'm just like, what is this? Who is this for? Like, I don't want to. I don't. I don't even know who this guy is. And it's. I guess it's for middle America. If you're watching and you're from middle America, I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what Jelly Roll's doing here, so. [00:44:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I. I don't either. And, like, Randy Orton like, what is he doing? Like, Drew McIntyre and Randy Orton are too good to be mixed up in this nonsense. Like, like, I don't know. Randy Orton is a, the ultimate Jelly Roll apologist. I remember like, during that cringe Saturday night main event, like interview or whatever the hell intervention or whatever. He was just like, intervention? Yeah, he was just like, oh, I'm sorry I got you involved in this. I know you're not a wrestler, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And you know, I don't know. I, I give Jelly Roll pretty props for going through that. He's, he sold things well, but it's just, he's not an entertaining character. I don't really like outside characters sticking around for too long, if you know what I mean. Like, yeah, if we see like Drew Carey come on once or we'll laugh our ass off. But if Drew Carey comes on like every freaking, like, night or like the. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Rapper who was at WrestleMania, Travis Scott. That's it. Travis Scott, the one who does the Fiend song, the Feast, whatever the it is. Like, yeah, like, that was like, what are you doing? Like, Logan Paul, I don't mind because he's at least a fighter. He's been around. He's done some stuff. He does locker room shenanigans. He, he cold j uso a few times. I'm into it. I think it's fine. But like, Jelly Roll is just like, you know, at least they had the foresight to have like, you know, Logan Paul fight Jelly Roll and tell him like, you don't belong here, man. Get out of here. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. [00:45:55] Speaker A: That's all just building heat for Jelly Roll to come back. Oh, boy. [00:45:59] Speaker B: I'm coming back. But yeah, I don't know. I think, like, it's kind of, kind of disappointing that they have this Jelly Roll thing. I want them to drop it. Like it, it's hot, like it's a hot potato, but drop it like a. But yeah, I, I, I think, like, it's, it's just such a dull storyline we're going to get. And that's, that's kind of why I prefer Raw to smackdown too. Like, we just get so many of these tired story lines on. Well, actually you get tired story lines on Raw too. The new day and Judgment Day kind of gets old too. And then on Smackdown and you get end, you get Solo and Jacob shoved down your throat. I'm okay with them, but their match. [00:46:59] Speaker A: Was, their match was like, whatever. I don't know what it was doing at SummerSlam. It was fine, whatever. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Oh, Solo. Yeah, we should talk about that, but. Oh, yeah, I thought that was kind of neat. Yeah, yeah, they're kind of in. They're kind of the whatevers of Smackdown. Although I will take both of them over. What's it called? The Judgment Day, I think. Yeah, yeah. The although, Dom, I'm building an appreciation for now after that match, but, yeah, we should talk about Solo and Jacob. It was a steel cage match, although it didn't. It didn't feel like it had the proper intensity of a steel cage match. And then like, they handcuffed Jacob at the top of the. The cage and he somehow breaks loose due his sheer power. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's too powerful. [00:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, that. That's the funny thing I love on the other documentary, like, Jay Uso's kid or whatever, like, he asked him, who do you think's gonna win the rumble? And then he's like, I think Uncle. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Jacob's gonna win the rumble. It's really funny. [00:48:20] Speaker B: I wonder if he was just, like, thinking, wtf? That was like your own son's like, yeah, you're. You're. Your cousin's gonna beat your ass or whatever. But anyway, yeah, that was kind of a whatever match. We. We talked. I'm just going through the matches now. Might as well get them out of the way. We talked about Becky and Lyra. Becky retained. Blah, blah, blah. The Wyatt six one. That was awesome. Naomi beat Rhea and Iyo sky, and then, let's see. Okay. One we didn't talk about yet is Tiffy time and Jade Cargill. [00:49:07] Speaker A: Do we have to talk about it? [00:49:08] Speaker B: We can just say I. Here's what I'm gonna say about it. I literally don't remember a damn thing about that match. All I know is Tiffy time one. And yeah, he's like, what time is it? [00:49:22] Speaker A: It's Tippy time. Yep, yep, yep. That's enough. That's another narrative cul de sac. It's like, up. It's this again. Yep. [00:49:33] Speaker B: Yes, you're right. It got. It's a narrative cul de sac. But I feel like they're gonna leave the title on her for a long time. [00:49:42] Speaker A: I do think that Jade Cargill is kind of like. I think they don't know what to do with her because, like, she's really cool, she's really talented, but I don't know why they don't just throw her into the Lyra, Valkyria Bailey garbage. Like. Like, I know they're like, oh, there's all this, like, history, but it's fucking boring, man. [00:50:01] Speaker B: You know, you See, I think Jade Cargill is like a badass. Like Storm. I think she's really cool. But yeah, they got her mixed up with Tiffy Time. That is one way to inject some energy into this women's mid card bullshit on Raw and then like women's mid card shit on smackdown. Sadly, I can't even like Nate. Like, I know it used to be Chelsea Green. She was the original US Champion. That was really cool. But I have no idea who the US Champion is on Smackdown for women's champion. Yeah, because we can't watch Smackdown. But yeah, oh, maybe. What if Chelsea Green and Nikki Bella get mixed up with Becky now? Would that be. [00:50:51] Speaker A: I would be all over that. I want to see lynch get her ass kicked. And I like Chelsea Green. She's like, she's a very good clown. She's a very good actor. She's a very good wrestler too. Kind of underrated, you know. Watching her watch, it was funny, I guess. It was Raw, wasn't it, where it was like Rhea Ripley, Stephanie Vacair and Iyo sky and ooh, who was who? There was one more person on their team. They were versing Chelsea Green, Naomi and the Royal Harvest. And like Chelsea Rhea Ripley got tapped in and Chelsea Green was like, she did not want to fight Raya. So Raya tapped in Iyo Skye to kick her ass. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:51:33] Speaker A: Like I, I enjoy Chelsea Green very much. Like, she embraces the role, she does the job and she doesn't care. [00:51:39] Speaker B: You know, she doesn't. She's awesome. I love Chelsea Green, but where was I going with this? Oh yeah, we were talking about dead end cul de sac type things. I was gonna hit you with something that isn't a dead end cul de sac thing. And I, I think it's, it makes no sense where it is on the match card. And that is the opener to SummerSlam, period. Night one and night two, Roman Reigns and Jay USO versus Braun, the bronze. So yeah, what we, we forgot all about that because like so much other. [00:52:22] Speaker A: Happened, it was a great event. And yeah, the fact that we forgot about J uso and the Tribal Chief fighting the bronze, the Bruiser squad, the Bruiser duo. That's testament to how good the event was. Yeah, that was crazy. By the way, like at one point Roman Reigns took a spear from Braun Breaker so that Jay Erzo didn't have to take another one. Bron Breaker is terrifying. Like he's, he, he fights like a super villain. Like when he spears you, there's no way to Soften that. Like, it's crazy. Like, they. There was a replay from up above where Jay USO was standing and Bronberger smacks him and he's fucking down, man. Like, Bron Breaker is like the Hulk. Like, he is scary, you know? [00:53:07] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, I. I couldn't agree more. Bron Breaker is horrifying, but, like, also. [00:53:15] Speaker A: Bronson Reed is a Digimon. He's just like Tsunami. [00:53:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah. Yeah, that. That was. That was pretty rad. How. I love how he just calls out his move like that. But I. I love. Yeah, I love all four of them. They're all interesting characters, but. Yeah, I. I mean, I. I knew that. [00:53:39] Speaker A: I guess J uso's grown on you, huh? [00:53:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, in some ways, I. Again, I'm gonna pick Uncle Howdy over eating all day. [00:53:49] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [00:53:52] Speaker B: But. [00:53:53] Speaker A: But, yeah, bring up literally the best thing ever, like, where we're talking about something that we just kind of like. I mean, you know. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. I had to. I had to go there. But. [00:54:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:06] Speaker B: I. I mean, yeah, I guess that match was pretty predictable because, like, Roman's not gonna come back to lose, right? [00:54:14] Speaker A: Probably not. [00:54:15] Speaker B: And are we even gonna see Roman again? For what? Watch. That's just it. Like, that. That would be scary, too. There. There's so much you could do here, actually, with Brock and Roman back. You could do some really crazy storylines. But will they. Or will these two guys want to stick around? That's the other thing. Like, one of them is going to be like, oh, I gotta film a movie. I don't think Brock films. Movie. It would be weird to see him in a movie. I guess he just goes, I. Like, I heard an interview with him once, and he's just like, I like spending time at my ranch and drinking beer and fishing and hunting. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Yeah, sounds like Brock Lesnar. Brock Lesnar movies. I mean, honestly, Roman Reigns is a Akuma in Street Fighter. So I. I mean, unless he has to go and do more of that. I mean, he might be back, right? [00:55:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he might be. But, like, it seems like once some of these guys get too big for their britches, they're like, oh, I'm beyond the wwe, the Rock. [00:55:20] Speaker A: I mean, it's a hard job. It's a hard job. It's hard on your body. I mean, watching what the undertaker had to go through when he got his. What was it, his knee replaced? I mean, or his hip? I mean, that man. Outrageous. Breaking your body for trash, for lowbrow TV entertainment. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Like, Yeah. [00:55:40] Speaker A: I mean, that's the thing. A lot of these guys can't get enough of it. They, you know, like watching Cena. So I didn't watch the post show, but I watched. I watched the bit at the end where, you know, after all was said and done with Brock Lesnar and Cena got back up and people were cheering for him and they started playing his music and he's like. You know, and he's like, he's pointing at his ear and he turned around while everyone was screaming for him, and he went like this, and he took a fake picture with his finger and then pointed to his temple, as in, you're all right here, buddy. It was sweet. It was almost. It was beautiful, you know. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That is a good moment. I did not catch that. [00:56:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it was lovely because, like, Cena was so annoying over the past few months. Like, I'm here to run wrestling. I raised your kids, and I. I forgot how cool he really is. Like, you know, all his little cancer kids, the Peacemaker TV series, and just all the neat stuff that he's done over the years. Like, it's so easy. Like, you know, as a human being, it's so easy to focus on what's in front of you. And watching this match where he wasn't doing any of that douchey nonsense. He was just doing a title match with Cody Rhodes, who, let's be honest, probably looks up to Cena. [00:56:50] Speaker B: Did. [00:56:51] Speaker A: Does look up to Cena, which was crying at the end of the match. You know, that's the stuff that I. I enjoy. [00:56:56] Speaker B: It's. [00:56:57] Speaker A: It's where the kayfabe kind of falls away a bit, and you see the humanity of the wrestlers. And that's what makes this special because, like, I compare this to superhero movies a lot, which are hyper choreographed and planned because. And scripted because they're fucking movies. And this is very similar, but at the same time, these guys are doing a live stunt show for our entertainment. And, you know, like, look, you see Rare Ripley's house. It's full of weird art and, like, goth stuff. You know, you see the Undertaker, he puts so much of himself into that character and the things that he likes. And that goes for Cody Rhodes, too. Like, they're. They are doing a scripted fight, but they're putting themselves into it. It is a performance. It is art, you know, and, yeah, Cena, I mean, this. This SummerSlam would have been a good thing for him to end on. It felt like the end, even though it's not, you know, so in my Mind, he's done it. You know, in my mind, this was a good retirement tour. Like, yeah, if something cringe happens, like in a month or two, like, who cares? [00:57:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I mean, let me ask you this. What have you. What have you had Cena win this match or is it just getting old at that point? [00:58:09] Speaker A: I think it's just getting old at that point, you know, because the way this was framed was Cody Rhodes is like the new, like, quarterback, right? [00:58:18] Speaker B: He's the new. Yeah. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Golden Boy. And Cena was beloved. I mean, look, I mean, me and you have other characters that we prefer from that era, but Cena was the number one guy for a really long time. Like, little kids loved him, the crowds loved him. And, you know, it's understandable. He was never my favorite. He's still not my favorite. He will never be my favorite. But I think passing the torch is important. And I know this didn't retire him, but it's my understanding that a lot of wrestlers retire on their backs. They. They get defeated and then they retire. Like, that's what happened with the Undertaker, you know, he lost to Roman Reigns, of course, and then he got actually retired by A.J. styles. And that's just the tradition. You give a great final match. And I don't know, this was one of the best matches I've seen. I mean, like, you know that. That one with Ray Ripley and EO sky, that happened at Evolution. I mean, that. That might be number one, but that's just cuz, you know, Ray Ripley is fantastic, you know? [00:59:18] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. [00:59:19] Speaker A: I personally would not have had Cena win. Will there be another great match? I don't know. Probably. I just don't think that they're looking at it that way, you know, I think it's just like, this is SummerSlam. In some ways, this is not the biggest stage, right? But in some ways this is the biggest stage, right? Because a lot of people watch this. It's not WrestleMania, but it's SummerSlam. This is the mid. The mid thing, you know? [00:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:48] Speaker A: WrestleMania. It sets the stage and it's a big deal. We got Cena losing to Cody Rhodes, guys. We got Seth Rollins throwing his crutches aside and beating the out of CM Punk. Like, whoa, bro. [01:00:02] Speaker B: I know, I know. In some ways, yeah, I like. I like the time of year where SummerSlam falls better, you know? Like, I don't know. I. Who. I was born in April, FYI. So I can kind of say this, but, like, April isn't exactly my favorite month. It's just like the Weather is kind of dreary in most places. Like, it's raining, it's spring. It's like, the part of spring that nobody's excited about. That's my take. But wrestle SummerSlam, it's like. It's the summer. People are on vacation. Like, you could be. I don't know, I just imagine somebody, like, having a barbecue, and you could be watching, like, John Cena picking up Cody Rhodes and carrying him down the ramp and giving him an attitude adjustment on the steel or concrete or whatever the hell it's made out of. [01:00:56] Speaker A: But, yeah, they said it was steel, but there's probably some concrete under it. [01:01:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, I think it falls at a more exciting time of the year. Yeah, WrestleMania is their super Bowl. Triple H even said that, but it just falls at a more exciting time of the year for me. Like, it's. And, yeah, those. It's funny I say that because everybody's trying to cut summer short now with, like, pumpkin lattes are out, everybody. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Dude, you say that and, like, my magazine, I'm skipping the summer edition and going right into the fall edition because it feels like. It feels like there's not enough time to promote it. Yeah. [01:01:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you're right. Yes. [01:01:39] Speaker A: We'll be in the fall already by the time we release, like, you know. Oh, I have to announce that next week. Holy shit. Oh, my God. Time flies. [01:01:47] Speaker B: I know. It goes way too fast. [01:01:49] Speaker A: That said, I agree. I love the summer. Do I prefer pumpkin season? [01:01:55] Speaker B: Yes. [01:01:56] Speaker A: But that's because I'm an Angie Goth kid, you know? Yeah. But SummerSlam I really enjoyed. I had a great time with it, and I think that's a good place for us to wrap up. I'm really excited for what comes next, you know, excited to see what they do with Brock Lesnar the Beast, the cave troll, as I call him. He looks like a monster. He doesn't look like a human. [01:02:19] Speaker B: And. Yeah. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Do you have any final thoughts before we wrap up? [01:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll close with this. I am so excited to have both Brock and Roman back. And then Heyman is there. Like that. That's like the holy Trinity right there for me to watch. But will they do anything with it? That's one thing. Will they be able to do anything with it, given the logistics? And, like, obviously, all three guys can, you know, they have a lot of weight in this industry, and they can and moan their way out of anything. They're not gonna. I don't feel like any of those three guys are, like, Chelsea Green, where they'll be like, okay, we'll do it, you know, kind of thing, like, and yeah, I'll never forget like in Paul Heyman's documentary where Stephanie McMahon said he was like a petulant child if he didn't get his way with like the, the story lines. And even if it was a good storyline and he wouldn't stop talking about it, apparently everybody else would start thinking it's not a good storyline anymore because he wouldn't shut up about it. So that's the interesting thing. I really hope they do something with it. I'm itching to watch Raw. There's so much that this should be a very good Raw, actually. Like, it should be an epic Raw. So I'm really looking forward to it. I, I hope I can watch it live, but I've got interviews tomorrow, so I'm not sure if I will be able to get a chance if I'm preparing. But yeah, I, I, I, I'm impressed. I, yeah, two thumbs way up for the SummerSlam. I'm excited about the potential of Raw and then the holy trinity of Roman Brock and, and Paul Heyman. [01:04:11] Speaker A: Roman Brock and Paul Heyman. There you go. That is lowbrow. Read comics and watch wrestling or we can't be friends. Greg is looking for work. His GitHub is below. He's a really great programmer. Please hire this man. [01:04:26] Speaker B: Please hire me. Yeah, I, I'm, I'm swamped with interviews these days because you guys aren't hiring me. And if you want me to work on real stuff and not interview all day, then give me a shout out on my LinkedIn or, you know, contact me on my GitHub or take a look at my GitHub. So, yeah, I look forward to hearing from some of you. I'd love to get back in doing more business. [01:04:52] Speaker A: There you go. Yeah. Demonlandbooks.com that's where you can find all my writing, if you care. But also deathwishpoetry.com that's where my magazine is. So that's that, that's that, that's that summer slurp.