Episode 4

July 06, 2025

01:02:32

WWE Needs More Theater, Less Goldberg!

WWE Needs More Theater, Less Goldberg!
Low-Brow
WWE Needs More Theater, Less Goldberg!

Jul 06 2025 | 01:02:32

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Show Notes

Greg and Daniel talk about the recent happenings on Night of the Champions and elsewhere in the WWE Universe, hoping that the current feeling of stagnation clears up soon. Will Goldberg's retirement free up Gunther for the Rollins story? Is El Grande Americano the harbinger for a return of the wackiness of the Attitude era? Listen to us discuss these questions and more on this week's episode of Low-Brow!

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Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Lowbrow
  • (00:04:07) - Let Goldberg Retire With The WWE Championship
  • (00:08:01) - John Cena on The Cena Angle
  • (00:12:07) - Roman Reigns on Rusev In The Street Fighter Movie
  • (00:14:23) - Seth Rollins On His Character
  • (00:19:21) - Jey USO Being Called Old
  • (00:23:40) - The Undertaker Used To Pray His Pants
  • (00:28:27) - The Undertaker vs Kane in WWE
  • (00:31:43) - Triple H on The Ultimate Warrior
  • (00:35:27) - Rhea Ripley vs Raquel Rodriguez
  • (00:39:06) - Paul Heyman On The Undertaker Match
  • (00:44:16) - Chris Jericho on El Grande Americano
  • (00:46:15) - Paul Heyman on WWE's Netflix Deal
  • (00:51:13) - Dirty Dom the Intercontinental Champion
  • (00:54:51) - Goldberg vs. Gunther
  • (00:56:33) - Roman Reigns on His Street Fighter
  • (01:01:21) - Goldberg's funeral
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Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: All right. Welcome back to Lowbrow. We are back after taking a week long hiatus. I am your host, King Loki. With me is my co host, Greg. Of course, Matt is not here because I overslept. So it's just me and Greg this week. It's just me. Oo what's up, Greg? [00:00:16] Speaker B: What's going on? That juice is good. Oo Bring the juice. Oo. That's what he says. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Well, he also does the snap into a Slim Jim commercial now. [00:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah. And now like Slim Jim officially sponsors the tables at ww. [00:00:33] Speaker A: I mean, that's a long time partnership though. They've been there forever. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't realize it until recently though. [00:00:41] Speaker A: Slim Jim ooz. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's so funny. You gotta love Jey uso. He's grown on me like he had been growing on you. [00:00:49] Speaker A: Yeah, he's my comfort character. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Yeah, he is a good comfort character. Although he kind of is like getting lost in the salt loss of the whole Goldberg fiasco. [00:01:03] Speaker A: You know, I, I think they're just like us, they're just pushing through it. I mean, you know, that montage was like great. He was cool like 30 years ago, I guess. [00:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, to be honest, I. I don't know why, but like it was a cringe promo. But I'm really like into Saturday, July 12, main event. Saturday night, main event on July. [00:01:28] Speaker A: You're mine. [00:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah, because you're next. And he totally botched it because, like, you can tell by the editing of the like highlights where he said, gunther, you're neck. Like they edited the highlights to just say, gunther, you're next. And like I'm like, yeah, he. [00:01:48] Speaker A: I noticed that. I was like, wait, was Greg screaming the wrong thing? Like, am I crazy? They, they. [00:01:54] Speaker B: No, they. Yeah, they, they edited it for, for sure. Because if you go back and watch that clip I sent you, it will say you're mine because you're next. I wonder if like Gunther gave him like a dirty look and that's why he corrected it or something. But. Yeah, that's kind of sad. That's how you know you should walk away from wrestling when you can't even get your catchphrase right. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Can't even get the catchphrase. Yeah, I agree. That's crazy. Yeah, I was disappointed that there was no more Goldberg Cringe besides the fucking montage this week. It was just Gunter came out to his fucking epic theme and trash talked him for like 20 minutes. [00:02:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean that, that's the thing. Like I, I was hoping for more Goldberg Cringe. And like, him to make an appearance because I read some thing that claimed that he was going to appear on every Raw up until Saturday night main event, and he appeared on that one. And I. I know what they'll say. Well, he was interviewed by Michael Cole on the other one. [00:02:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:03:00] Speaker B: Like, I kind of doubt that that interview was the same day, because, like, how would Michael Cole show up at raw? Like, yeah, but it doesn't matter. [00:03:11] Speaker A: That interview was shot, like, weeks ago. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah, man. Michael Cole just takes it so seriously, though. Like, Goldberg's like. And he was not going to get away with saying that to my family. And he's like, I know Bill. There's no way he would get away with that. And I'm like, oh, my God. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Michael Cole's a better actor than their. Their reporter backstage. I forget what her name is. I'm so sorry, lady. [00:03:34] Speaker B: Jackie Redmond or something like that. The girl. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm so sorry, lady. You're fantastic. I love you, but Michael Cole's a better actor than you. I'm sorry. I forgot your name. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. I guess that's why they threw him at the interview. I love how if Pat did that interview, it would be so not serious, though. It'd be like, are you gonna, like, say you're next when you walk into the ring? That's what Pat would probably ask. But, yeah, next. Yeah, I. I don't know. Actually, like, the last RAW was a little underwhelming to me. It didn't seem to have, like. Like, that Raw where, like, Gunther retook the championship, that there was so much going on in that ra. It almost seemed like a footnote that he really took the championship. But, like, this last Raw, the most significant thing I took from it really was the new day is finally out of business. That was beautiful. [00:04:34] Speaker A: They need more tag teams. I don't know what the fuck they're doing. I'm so tired of watching it. It's the new day. It's Judgment Day, and that's it. Yeah, even the world Raiders are dead. Like, I don't even like them, but they, like, vanished. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know. [00:04:50] Speaker A: They went to Valhalla. [00:04:51] Speaker B: You know, that's the other thing about Pat. He used to say, RAW is War Raiders. And I'm like, come on, man. Nobody's here watching RAW for the War Raiders. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Yeah, they're watching it for. They're watching it for. What's his name? For Seth Rollins. [00:05:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he's feuding, like, with every significant star right now, and it didn't Even include Gunther. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Well, after. After the Goldberg stuff, Goldberg. Gunther will be like, I have retired Goldberg. I am epic. I am go. I am Gunther, you know? [00:05:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Seth Rollins will appear again. Yeah. [00:05:28] Speaker A: He'll cash in that stupid Money in the bank, you know, briefcase. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Well, he tried to do it. Tried to do it against John Cena and Money in the bank, but, yeah, we all know that wasn't gonna happen. Actually, Matt and I were talking about this possibility, so you know how we both are on the same page. We don't like how there's so many titles or, like. Like, the undisputed WWE Championship and then the World Heavyweight Championship. [00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's stupid. [00:05:59] Speaker B: One possibility is. And I still don't know how they're gonna. I can't. I can't fathom, like, how they would let Goldberg win, you know? You know, but they could let Goldberg win. If he can even, like, jackhammer or spear Gunther at this point, they could let him win, and then they could just vacate that title and be like, okay, you keep that title, because it doesn't have a lot of history. It only goes back two years. And then it has loose ties. If you look at Goldberg's last ride shirt, it has him holding the UCW World Heavyweight Title, which makes sense because he was a legend at that point. [00:06:39] Speaker A: He had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:06:40] Speaker B: And so it has loose ties to that. That title. So we. We both kind of agreed it might be a possibility that they let him retire with it. And Matt actually went as far to say that he would prefer that to happen. He doesn't think it will happen, but he would prefer it to happen, because then we could finally reunite the other championship, and there would be one undisputed, at least male heavyweight champion. But if you do it for the men, you probably have to do it for the women as well. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Not doing that. [00:07:14] Speaker B: You don't think they'll do it? [00:07:16] Speaker A: No, no, that's too much work. They're not. They're not going to do that. They're just going to have Goldberg lose because they love to make their. Their heels do evil things. They're going to make Dr. Defeat him in a really nasty way. [00:07:28] Speaker B: Well, he do, like, where he, like, handcuffs. Handcuffs Goldberg to the thing, and he's just slapping him relentlessly. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Was just for Jey USO to make him even more evil than he was. No, no, no. He's just gonna defeat him and be like, now your kids can watch you lose Goldberg. You know, like, it's. It's just gonna be that. And then Like, Goldberg is gonna be like, oh, no, Avenge me. You know? And, yeah, it's gonna turn into this whole fucking thing. It'll. It'll. For them to generate more heat, in my opinion. [00:08:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I could see it. And then, like, Seth Rollins will come out and be like, you need to fight someone that's not in a retirement home or something. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. If you think they're gonna do something, like, revolutionary ironically, I got news for you. They don't. They're not gonna do anything like that. Like, they run this like it's a movie. Like, it's a TV show, you know? [00:08:26] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but they're. They're handicapped right now by. In Goldberg's defense, it was only the last month or two, but he did change the total trajectory of things. Like, you could argue that Jey USO was going to be champion longer, like you guys have said, if Goldberg didn't enter the mix because they. They had to make it for the championship. I still don't know why, but, like, they had to make it for the championship, and it had to be against Gunther. What's really handicapping everything is that damn John Cena, like. Because, like, I'm getting tired of, like, I almost always know he's going to win, and I don't know when it's finally gonna end, because I feel like they're just going to kiss his ass until the very end when he, you know, retires officially. But who am I to say, well. [00:09:17] Speaker A: We don't like it because, I mean, I've thought about it. It's. Because it doesn't feel like it's kayfabe, you know? [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Like, he actually feels like he's ruining wrestling for real. It's like, could you fuck off? Like, it's not fun. It's not fun. [00:09:30] Speaker B: No, it's. It's not. Yeah. We all know he gives the same dialogue every time he opens the show. He's like, I'm gonna ruin wrestling. I'm gonna take the title. I raised your kids. Like, that's why I don't need kids, because they grew up watching me wrestle. It's like, oh, my God. It's like, dude, just shut up. Yeah, like, being fed all those lines. [00:09:55] Speaker A: But still, he has, like, a new movie with Idris Elba where he's the president or something. [00:10:00] Speaker B: And I see that advertised all the time. Yeah. [00:10:03] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like a. It's like a Die Hard with the president. It's another one of those. But, like, I have no interest in watching it because I'm like, oh, God, John Cena. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Like, yeah, I'm opting out unless it's free. Like, if it's. [00:10:16] Speaker A: It's on. It's on Scamazon prime, so. [00:10:19] Speaker B: Oh, if it's on. Oh, oh, it didn't even go to theaters. It's on Scamazon. Okay. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah. What I find funny about that movie is that the director said, yeah, John Cena didn't know any martial arts, so we had to kind of train him a bit. [00:10:33] Speaker B: It was that movie that they had to train him in the martial arts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so wild because so many wrestlers have a background in martial arts. [00:10:45] Speaker A: I know, but even if they don't, like, they at least know some stuff just from being in the ring. I mean, for fuck's sake, you know? [00:10:52] Speaker B: I know, right? [00:10:53] Speaker A: I mean, I guess if it was Jey uso, it would be the same kind of thing, you know? Like, oh, he doesn't know anything, you know? [00:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's. Yeah. No, I. I get it. Like, yeah, trying to think of who really. Like Big Bronson Reed. All he does is just Tsunami everybody to death. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Or what's his name? Bron Breaker with his spears, you know. [00:11:19] Speaker B: But have you seen him do the Frankensteiner? [00:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:23] Speaker B: Well, okay, yeah, I guess that's not really martial arts, but, yeah, I couldn't do it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that would be hard to do. Yeah, he got that from his uncle. [00:11:34] Speaker A: Right. I think the point is that, like, Cena just can't do. Doesn't do that kind of stuff. He didn't need to and he didn't. [00:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he just does the attitude adjustment pretty much. Like his matches are torture to watch. It's. It's like he'll whack the guy with the belt, he'll give him a low blow, and then he'll attitude adjustment them until like he. The referee notices enough to count 1, 2, 3. I love how, like, during the match with Randy Orton, they counted like the 10 or 12 with Randy pinning him. [00:12:07] Speaker A: And speaking of movies, speaking of movies, did you hear about the Street Fighter movie? [00:12:13] Speaker B: Yes, I did. I don't know anything more than there's going to be a Street Fighter movie. [00:12:18] Speaker A: But Roman Reigns is playing Akuma. [00:12:22] Speaker B: Are you serious? I didn't know that Roman Reigns was actually in it. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Cody Rhodes is playing Guile. [00:12:29] Speaker B: God, I gotta watch this then. [00:12:31] Speaker A: I don't know when it's coming out. I just know that at least those two wrestlers are in it. If they get Rusev for Zangief, greatest movie of all time. Rusev is Zangief. [00:12:41] Speaker B: That was also the highlight of Raw. [00:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:43] Speaker B: When Rusev screamed Rusev like a Pokemon. [00:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah. He was like. [00:12:59] Speaker B: I hope they get him. But, like, the issue with Rusev is, like, he's. I think he's building his way back in because he was. He was in the business for a while. I didn't know anything about Rusev, but. And I didn't actually. I'll admit, I didn't even pay a ton of attention to his matches. But then you kept talking about how awesome Rusev was, and I'm like, this guy is pretty cool. He talks about how he can fix people through pain. And, like, he's talking about. [00:13:30] Speaker A: But it's great. [00:13:31] Speaker B: Spend time away from the WWE to fix himself. He talks like, fix all of you. [00:13:37] Speaker A: He talks like he was in a gulag or something. Rusev was fixed in Siberia. Rusev fixed you like, Rusof. Fix himself. [00:13:47] Speaker B: He's. He's awesome. You're right. He'd be perfect for the Street Fighter movie. But I feel like every time we think somebody's perfect for something, they never do it. [00:13:57] Speaker A: In the wwe, at least. [00:14:00] Speaker B: Of course, like, because they have their Golden Boys, and Roman Reigns is obviously. Would I say he's the Golden. No, Cena is probably the Golden Boy, but, like, yeah, they really do. That's like, probably the Holy Trinity. I'd say Cena, Roman Reigns, and Cody Rhodes, like, because they'll. They'll bend over. Like, notice, like, Seth Rollins has a good storyline right now, but he's not getting. He's not getting the titles. Although you can say, like, I do watch Raw. Like, the primary focus is, like, what is Seth and the gang going to do next? Well, I mean, I guess my primary focus right now is how bad is Gunther going to screw up Goldberg. But along with that, it's usually like, what is Seth and the gang going to do? And they really need a name for those guys, though. It's crazy. [00:14:57] Speaker A: It's so late in the game, I don't even think it's gonna happen. I am expecting, like, someone to betray Seth Rollins before that even happens. It feels kind of. It feels like it's happening in a pocket universe, you know? Like, you have all the superheroes fighting Dr. Doom, and then the X Men are over here fighting Sentinels. [00:15:18] Speaker B: That's true. Yeah. [00:15:20] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, I know that, like, things happen, but, like, I don't know. It doesn't feel relevant. It feel. It literally feels like. Like a Side thing. So, I don't know, maybe after this Goldberg shit's over, like, they'll attack Gunther, and we'll finally have our connection to the real world, you know, Cuz Gunther feels like he's in a pocket universe too. [00:15:39] Speaker B: I'm telling you, though, Dan, like, I don't think they value the World Heavyweight Championship the same way they value Cena's championship. Because, like, read so much about RAW on Netflix, and they're like, why is Gunther not on the first episode of it? Like, he was the World Heavyweight Champion. They have, like, the Rock Hulk Hogan, and all these people show up, but no Gunther. And then they were like, new people won't know Gunther. They'll know Cena. I. I don't. I guess they'll know Cody Rhodes from what they said, because he was featured on it too, but because he was undisputed UWE champion at the time. But, yeah, it's. It is kind of weird. Like, it does seem like Gunther is in his own alternate universe and storytelling and. And then Seth Rollins, like, he totally just, like, left on a. That was funny. When they were talking about that at the end, he left on a plane and they referred to him as the Visionary. Did you notice that Bronson Reed called him the Visionary? [00:16:41] Speaker A: That's his thing. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah, but he's like, where is the Visionary? And then Bron Breaker is just like, Glenn Bees to smash everybody. Yeah, yeah. And actually, I need to send you this interesting video, because they were saying that the plan was to use Seth Rollins to elevate Braun Breaker. And then somebody's comment made so much sense. It's like, dude, Braun Breaker is like a glorified, like, canine security guard for Seth Rollins at this point. And I'm like, yeah, pretty much. And I don't even know what Bronson Reed really is. He, like, they have two enforcers. [00:17:24] Speaker A: He stands there. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But they. They haven't accomplished it. I loved when Gunther actually said that on the show. He's like, you flew so far and you accomplished absolutely nothing. How do you feel about yourself? That was hilarious. [00:17:40] Speaker A: Like, it's like, my. Is becoming one of my favorite characters because he's just so awesome. [00:17:45] Speaker B: He. [00:17:46] Speaker A: He's like Dr. Doom, where he's a bad guy and he's doing evil stuff, but he's in the right, you know? Like, he knows what he's doing. He's the only character that makes any sense. And it's like, yeah, I hope you win. [00:17:57] Speaker B: Well, it's just so fun. He doesn't give a shit about the rest of them at all. Like, he just was like standing around, he's like, I'm gonna let these guys beat the shit out of each other and laugh. And then he gave like that kind of like the shoulder or whatever to CM Punk on the way out. [00:18:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:15] Speaker B: And he. CM Punk didn't like that. There's a lot of enemies to balance with Seth Rollins now. And. And then CM Punk was like pissed at the world because he was robbed of the title from Seth Rollins. And it will be interesting to see how all of these enemies evolve. But I noticed the constant enemy with Seth Rollins is always CM Punk. Like, that seems to be his arch rival. You know. [00:18:41] Speaker A: It was Jey USO for a minute, but that's over. So. Yeah, he's an insane super villain, you know. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, that's true. [00:18:51] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I just feel. I feel like Jey USO is really lost. Like he comes out and everyone's screaming for him and just doing his little dance and what's he doing now? He's just Jey uso like he is. [00:19:01] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why I feel, yeah, he. It's like he's forbidden from chasing the title. You're right. I think you thought they were going to give Jay the win over Cody, right? [00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Like tournament. [00:19:16] Speaker A: But I was surprised. I was surprised that they gave it to like, I like Cody Rhodes a lot. But I'm like, you know, Jey USO is still. He has a long way to go and maybe that's how they're looking at it. You know, they. [00:19:26] Speaker B: They might be, but I thought they would give it to Cody only because he's like a golden boy. Right. And literally they seem to. Yeah. Just be pumping the same guys over and over again. [00:19:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Who's really a championship contender. I mean, yeah, Jey Uso wasn't a championship winner before WrestleMania. [00:19:50] Speaker A: Well, I think Logan Paul is going to take it, man. [00:19:54] Speaker B: You're right. They actually did sneak Logan Paul in somewhat recently to fate. The last Saturday night main event. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Main event. [00:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah, the main event of Saturday night main event. It's. It's funny how, like that one, I don't even know what they call PLE or pay per view at this point. Yeah. So they, they seem to, you know, call that the same thing every time it appears. I remember this actually goes back to how easy is it to get into wrestling. I think before it got on Netflix or soon after it got on Netflix, Gunther and Jey USO were fighting for the championship on Saturday night main event. Also before WrestleMania. And I was like, what are they talking about? Because, like, it just was confusing because Jey USO is main event Jey uso. And now they're talking about Saturday night main event. And I'm like, is it the main event of Saturday night? It just. Yeah, I've wrapped my head around all of this too, but it kind of brings up the points that might be hard for a new person jumping into wrestling to get going with it, but. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Well, I mean, you know, main event Jey USO might want to change his name to side character Jey uso, because I don't. He feels like. Like Deadpool or something. Like, he just shows up and it's like, oh, look, it's him. Yay. You know? But he doesn't affect the plot in any meaningful way anymore. It's like. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Well, I mean, even if it feels that way with some champions though, too, like Dirty Dom, and he's injured now. I don't know what that's all about. Maybe they, like, I've had enough of Dirty Dom. I want him to lose the championship. [00:21:45] Speaker A: He probably will. They're probably gonna give it to someone else, honestly. [00:21:49] Speaker B: AJ Styles, probably. [00:21:51] Speaker A: Yeah. He's. He's retiring, isn't he? He has, like, one more year. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Does he have one more year? I know. They just keep calling him old. [00:21:58] Speaker A: Oh, well, yeah, but I mean, you know. Yeah. I saw an article about how he just signed a contract for one more year and this is it, apparently. So maybe, maybe, maybe he'll get a match with Gunter next year. I don't know. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Maybe. No, he's. [00:22:15] Speaker A: He's actually. Okay. He doesn't. He's actually talented. He can do stuff. They don't need to have Gunter Jerry rig a thing for him, you know? [00:22:23] Speaker B: That's funny. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's hilarious. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:27] Speaker A: You know, A.J. styles retired the Undertaker. I'm just saying, like, he's not that lame, you know? [00:22:33] Speaker B: That was the Undertaker's last match. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Yeah. At WrestleMania. I think it was 31. So I. I wrote an essay about the Undertaker. It's on Hard to Culture, but Dot com. But, like, yeah, like, I watched a bunch of the Undertaker's big matches just to refresh myself. And that one, I didn't know that was his last actual match because I wasn't watching wrestling at the time. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought the Roman Reigns one was his last match. [00:23:02] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no. That was just where he was like, I'm too old. I need to fucking stop. You know, I watched. That should have been the end, right? [00:23:11] Speaker B: There, you know, watched that match. And that was a crazy match, actually. You're right. He just. Superman punched him over and over again, and then he speared him over and over again, and he was still. Just kept going and then. [00:23:26] Speaker A: Hard to watch. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Yeah, and then he, like, laid in the ring for, like, 10 minutes or something. He probably was, like, knocked out or just like, fuck it. And they got up and they played his music and. Yeah, he got on his old costume. That was kind of cool. I do like the old Undertaker way better than the Biker Undertaker. [00:23:48] Speaker A: I hate. I. My thing about the Biker Undertaker is it reminds. It's so nice. It's like when Metallica cut their hair, you know? [00:23:56] Speaker B: Yes, that's so true. [00:23:57] Speaker A: No fun allowed, man. You know, we got to be grunge now. Everything is grunge forever, you know? [00:24:04] Speaker B: Oh, go on. Sorry. [00:24:05] Speaker A: No, it's okay. I mean, Mark Callahan liked it, but, like, from where I'm sitting, I liked the Undertaker. He's like Jason Voorhees or something. Something. He's amazing. He's a great character. [00:24:15] Speaker B: Like, you know, you say that he did copy a lot of those moves from, like, Friday the 13th and, like, just. He studied, like. And this is way before, you know, all the. We have now, like, YouTube and AI and blah, blah, blah. [00:24:33] Speaker A: Right. [00:24:33] Speaker B: But he would literally study those old movies, like Friday the 13th, and he even said a little bit of Nightmare on Elm street. And he would take inspiration from how the characters moved. Moved and got up. And, like, that's how he would get up out of the coffin or laying down. [00:24:51] Speaker A: That's my favorite, and that's my favorite. When you think he's dead, he just sits up with his eyes rolls at the back of his head. Like, that's amazing. There's nothing like that. [00:24:58] Speaker B: I think he might have gotten me on board, actually. [00:25:01] Speaker A: Like, the Undertaker Colt. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, yeah. Like, he might be my favorite wrestler now that I think about, because, like, he's so unique. Stone Cold was totally awesome. And I'd say he's probably my second favorite wrestler. Definitely more than the Rock. But, like, the Undertaker was just unique and, like, he's a good storyteller. If you listen to some of his interviews, like, he just could talk for hours about all the random shit. He hates cucumbers. I learned that, too. And he talks about. He talks. He told the story about how he got Paul Bearer to piss his pants. Did you hear that one? [00:25:42] Speaker A: No. That's really funny, though. I want to know about Paul Bearer. Like, what a weird little band, you know? [00:25:49] Speaker B: I gotta find this clip for you. I'll make this quick. But he hates cucumbers. And, like, they went to a restaurant, him and Paul Bearer, and he put the. I don't know, like, the Undertaker had to go to the bathroom or take a call or something. And he comes back and he ordered a burger. And he just was inspecting the burger, looking for cucumbers because he hates it so much. Because, like, he ate a bunch of, like, vinegar covered cucumbers that I guess they were trying to ferment, like his mom. And he's hated it his whole life, but he was looking for the cucumber in the burger the whole time, and he. He's like, oh, this burger is awesome. Blah, blah, blah. And then he goes and he takes a sip of his iced tea and he just gets cucumber out of it because he hid the cucumber perfectly and he hates cucumber. So he's like, I'm gonna get that little bitch Paul Bearer back. And what he ended up doing was they had a wrestling show in Seattle, and it was Undertaker's turn to drive because they literally drive between cities. And they were pulling up into Seattle. And Paul Bearer just keeps telling him. [00:27:10] Speaker A: I got up here. [00:27:11] Speaker B: You know how his weird voice. I gotta pee. And it was so funny. Undertaker's impression of him. And he's like, oh, we'll get the next stop, Paul. I gotta keep driving. And then he, like, purposely goes over this big hill and hits the brakes hard. And Paul Bear pisses all over and he's like. And then, like, they get up in front of all these fans that are at the stadium and, like, it's just hilarious. Like, and he's like, oh, he's shaking hands with people with this big piss stain all over his pants. I'm. I'm like, yeah, I could see why the Undertaker is totally your favorite wrestler. He just is hilarious. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Callahan put a lot of himself into that character. And that's. That's partly why, like, even though I don't like the American Badass, I'm sympathetic towards it because he wanted to do that and it reflects more of his real character. And, you know, you do want to be seen. You want, you know, like, you want to take off the mask and let people appreciate you for you. And I. I get it. You know, he was getting older, he was close to retirement, you know, and, like, he'd been the Undertaker for a while, and he said, that character couldn't have kept going forever. We had to do something. And I think there's Something there. I will say that probably my favorite part of my research was when I. When I got to the Kane drama, because that's when the Undertaker and, like, the fun of his character's lore really got supercharged. Like, the Brothers of Destruction stuff is ridiculous. You know, watching all that old stuff really highlights, like, what we've lost. Like. Like, yeah, we still have theater, I guess, technically, but the art is missing. The artifice is really lacking. [00:28:59] Speaker B: It is. I mean, like, the fact that you could have such dynamic players be the tag team champions at the time. And, like, you gotta. You're right. Like, yeah. Factoring out in ring ability, like, Undertaker wasn't, like, the best technical wrestler, but he was just awesome. Like, he. Like, we don't have tag team champions like that anymore. Any tag teams like Kane and the Undertaker, the Brothers of Destruction, that are just so captivating. Like, I'm sorry, Even the Judgment Day, like, thank God New Day is gone and somebody else are the tag team champions right now. And I kind of, like, they escape me. But if Kane and Undertaker were the tag team champions, no one would be forgetting that. [00:29:49] Speaker A: Listen. Like that when Kane defeated the Undertaker, threw him in a coffin and lit it on fire. Like, that to me was like, this is great. Like, this is amazing. This is better than any movie I've seen in the past 20 years. Like, that was great. Like, watching that as the capstone to, like, the Undertaker's big debut. And then he's fight, you know, he loses the big royal rumble, and then he comes back to fight his. His. His imposter. And then his brother shows up, like, whoa. And he defeats him. And his brother's a big hulking monstrosity who has to get revenge on him. Why they don't settle this, like, on a rooftop in the rain at night as thunder blares above them. It doesn't matter. He defeats him in the ring, right? Because this is what we're watching. But, like, it just kept escalating from there. And it's like, what happens nowadays. Like, a wrestler comes out and trash talks another wrestler and then he throws them through a table. Maybe, Like. Like, it's okay, right? Like, I'm enjoying watching Rhea Ripley, like, try to try to crush Raquel and then, like, getting, you know, get sucker punched or hindered by Roxanne Perez. Like, that stuff is. Is fine. But Rhea doesn't get thrown into a. Doesn't get buried in dirt, you know, she doesn't get buried alive in the ring. Like, whoa. [00:31:11] Speaker B: She doesn't. She just doesn't yeah, yeah. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Like, they. They use. They use the motifs of wrestling and they don't even use them that well. Like, the most exciting thing I saw with, like, her in particular was when they were signing Bianca Belair to fight EOS guy at the WrestleMania. And the. And the table just happened to be in the ring, and then Rhea came out and threw Bianca through the table. Like, that was the most exciting thing. But, like, generally speaking, they don't even do that, you know? [00:31:38] Speaker B: Right. They don't. Yeah, yeah. It. I don't know. And I was talking about Matt with this. I saw rumblings that Triple H might be out, but I guess, like, Matt was kind of like, oh, don't buy into that too much. He's the guy until they say he isn't the guy anymore. But, yeah, I kind of blame Triple H for some of that stuff. I. I just don't know how creative of a writer he really is, because we don't see. And I know we're in a whole different era, right? Like, we probably aren't going to be able to light caskets on fire any. [00:32:16] Speaker A: Well, they got in trouble for that. But I'm just saying, like, anything. I'll take anything at this point, you know. [00:32:21] Speaker B: Well, I. What I would love to see is, like, bring back, like, mankind type matches. Like Mick Fool. He's also one of my favorite wrestlers, Mankind McFoley. Because that guy just didn't give a shit. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Like, nah, he, like, he liked. He like, he liked the pain. [00:32:39] Speaker B: He loved pain. Yeah. You should see him now. Oh, yeah. I still gotta send you that interview he did where he talks about the pain level of all the weapons and how much they hurt. But, yeah, you don't see sledgehammer anymore. Like, that was Triple H's thing. He'd carry around a sledgehammer and it's all more hollow. [00:33:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know. I. I don't even. I don't care that they want it to be PG13. I care that, like, as I was saying, the art and the artifice, the actual physical, like, what's happening isn't as exciting. [00:33:18] Speaker B: No, watching. [00:33:19] Speaker A: Watching man. Watching man. I mean, they did. I mean, the Undertaker did throw Mankind off the hell in a cell back in 98. 90. 98. Right. And he fell 16ft through the announcer's table. But like, watching Kane throw lightning at that one wrestler and light him on fire, like, that's amazing. Or even the little stuff like the lights go out and lights come back on and the Undertaker is right behind the guy. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Right? Yeah, they really don't do anything like that. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Like, I'm. I'm not saying we need that ECW Madness where they're throwing people into barbed wire. Like, okay, maybe don't do that. But, like, I don't know, have a character come out with, like, the crazy face paint or something who, like, you know, is upset because the. The other guy broke into his house and stole his, like, baseball cards or something. I'll take anything at this point, you know. [00:34:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I would too. Like, and you're right. Like, the undertaker just appearing when the lights come on and it goes dark. That is awesome. Yeah, there's like a YouTube short up where he just. The lights come off, Stephanie McMahon's walking down the hall, and then he just appears and she's like, you gotta stop doing that. That freaks me out. And he does the whole thing with his eyes where they roll back into his head. Yeah, he really was a very dynamic character. The more I think about it, he's great. [00:34:38] Speaker A: He's literally great. And, like, I don't think there's anything like that now. There's nothing like that. Like, Cena was his own kind of interesting. And, like, in a world, like, in a thing where the most popular character is Jey USO who, like, I don't know, he's got good energy, he's fun, he's cute, whatever. Like, I'm really looking for that, like, that standout character who just screams and acts like. I think about the. The Ultimate Warrior a lot. He's one of my favorites because he was like, cocaine personified. He's just like Hulk Hogan. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Yeah, like. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Like, him coming out is like a nightmare. It's like, oh, no. It's the Ultimate Warrior. He's crazy. What's he gonna do? [00:35:22] Speaker B: I know. Yeah, we just don't. We don't have that. [00:35:26] Speaker A: Nah. Did you watch Night of the Champions, by the way? [00:35:30] Speaker B: No, I. I can't watch it, but I. I watched the highlights, but feel free to fill me in on anything here. [00:35:36] Speaker A: You know, it's. It's a weird thing, you know, like, there's a lot of talk going on about, like, sports, watching Saudi Arabia because they, you know, women don't have freedom there, and it's a theocracy. But it felt like the. Weirdly, it felt like a capstone to a couple of things, or at least the fulfillment, you know? Like, Sami Zayn got the win over Karrion Kross. It was an okay match, like, whatever. But then Rhea Ripley had her big match with Raquel Rodriguez, and, like, the two of them, the two of them had to wear like outfits that covered their entire bodies because they're women. I'm surprised they even let the women compete. And like I felt bad for Raquel because she came out to her music and then Rhea came out and everyone screamed for her like they always did and were chanting her name and stuff. And like they cut to Raquel and she just looked like, she looked kind of insulted, she looked kind of tired and she ate it, you know, which is a shame because I, I do like her. My thing is I'm a big fan of Rhea Ripley and I just want to see Rhea win something because she keeps getting thrown through tables. But they, they did let her win. You know, she defeated Raquel. She was chasing around with her belt, whipping her butt and stuff. [00:36:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Her outfit was very nice. I mean she wore it really well. It was like as skin tight as they would have allowed, I guess. And like she had like a pumpkin on her pants. It was very cool, you know. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Wow. I got. Yeah, I gotta somehow watch at least the highlights of that specific match again. [00:37:05] Speaker A: But it's quite good actually. It's pretty good. But yeah, Rhea defeated Raque. She didn't get sucker punched by Roxanne Perez, you know. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Well, I mean there. It looks like there's going to be a ray of push again. I mean, because EOS guy. Well, they're letting her defend the title against her at Evolution. I'm sure they're gonna let Rhea win that one. At least that's what I would guess. And then unless. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Unless they, unless they want Asuka to win. Although Reyes front on the poster, so who the fuck knows, you know. [00:37:40] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah, I kind of wanted Asuka to win the Queen of the Ring tournament. But I, I get why you'd want Jane Cargill to go. She. Because I don't know much about her because again, I can't watch smackdown really. But it looks like she was highly successful in the tag team realm and I think they're trying to give her a push in the singles realm. It kind of, kind of like what Jey USO was going through. Like he was mostly a tag team wrestler. Yeah. E E and now and Gunther always called that out and they're trying to give this lady a push now in the singles realm. [00:38:23] Speaker A: She's a really cool character. I like her. I like that she dresses like Storm. It's a very like the X Men Storm. It's a very funnest. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, she does. Yeah, that's a good point. Point. [00:38:32] Speaker A: She's always wearing the lightning bolt. She's usually. Her hair is usually white. Like storms, you know? Like, it's cool. It's a cool aesthetic. I like it. Here's the thing that's really missing from all this stuff, right? Like, Oscar comes out and she's like a pirate queen or something. I don't know what the she's talking about. Or La Knight comes out with his stupid glasses, and they all have some kind of gimmick, but that doesn't carry into the ring. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Nope, it doesn't. [00:38:55] Speaker A: Like, Asuka should be like. Like, I'm here because Rare Ripley stole my treasure, you know? And then it's like, treasure is some, like, wrestling artifact or something. [00:39:06] Speaker B: And did you ever watch. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Did you ever watch the Undertaker match where he battles his doppelganger? [00:39:13] Speaker B: I've heard so much about it. I've seen. [00:39:15] Speaker A: Okay. [00:39:17] Speaker B: But yeah, haven't watched it. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Okay, so there's an old tape, it's called the Undertaker. He buries them alive, right? It's from 1994, and it's three or four amazing matches. And the first one is that one where it's ridiculous. So basically, the Undertaker's standing there and. It's not the Undertaker. It's clearly not the Undertaker. It's a guy dressed like the Undertaker. He's standing in the ring and they're like, oh, my God, it's the Undertaker. He's back. What's going on? And then Paul Bearer comes out and they're blasting the Undertaker's theme. And, like, there's these four dudes, like, in fucking masks and outfits, like, pulling the Undertaker, the real Undertaker's casket, you know, And Paul Bearer is doing his thing. He's holding this magic urn and he's like. And there's like, smoke and stuff. And they just keep playing the theme over and over again. And then Paul Bearer opens the urn and this light comes out and he's like. He's dancing around the ring. And then through the. Through the smoke, the real Undertaker appears. And he's just standing there and it's such an elaborate over the top entrance. And I'm just like, where is this? [00:40:29] Speaker B: Yeah, really? [00:40:30] Speaker A: Like, why doesn't Seth Rollins, like, summon a genie? And it's Bron Breaker, like, you know, like, could you imagine or even have Bronn Breaker on a literal chain leash? Like, no, Brawn Braun. It's that time. [00:40:42] Speaker B: And he's like, yeah, okay, that would be awesome. [00:40:46] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. That's something like. Like, you're already Doing theater. Take it to the next level. Do opera, man. Fucking go crazy. Like, I don't know. [00:40:55] Speaker B: Yeah, and that's Paul Heyman's thing. Doing weird ass opera. [00:40:59] Speaker A: Do they think that, like, people would react negatively to that? I think the kids of today would go fucking crazy for that stuff. I mean, we did, right? I mean, we liked it. [00:41:09] Speaker B: Well, okay, so I have an answer to that. I agree. I would like it. I think kids of today would like it. It's the parents of today that have a problem with this stuff. [00:41:20] Speaker A: They're like, no, my kids being exposed. [00:41:23] Speaker B: But anyway, I'll give you an example. You see all the goofy, weird images I generate of brawn breaker on ChatGPT. And like, yeah, I take it a little far. Sometimes it corrects me quite a bit because like, I did actually ask it to, like, can you, can you draw Brawn Breaker barking like a dog? And it just said no, Essentially it said no because it violates the terms of service because it's, you know, it's like a fetish. Well, it didn't even say that. It said, it's humiliating someone of known stature, essentially is what it said. I forget the exact words, but more or less that's what it said. And I was like, but that's Bron Breaker's whole deal. He's. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Chatgpt doesn't know that. It's just covering its own ass. [00:42:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it doesn't know that. So it just, it just said, yeah, the Steiners are well known for barking like dogs and making dog calls, but still we can't do that. And it's like, there is a way around it and it will give you that. But yeah, I, I know that's AI. But I guess my general summary here is that I think in some ways that might just be society now too. They're like, hell, no, you can't do that because it's humiliating to X, Y and Z. And they're just so concerned about that. But I mean, I think Bron Breakker would embrace coming out like a dog all chained up. That would be so cool. And I mean, they, they really do treat him like a dog. Like, he's like, he's like, he won't bite you. That's what Paul Heyman said to the one interviewer. [00:43:07] Speaker A: You're so stupid. I. I love that stuff. And I mean, that might be the only time they really play into the cheese is when like, Paul Heyman's out there. But I don't know, I think some of these wrestlers would really thrive with A little bit of artifice, you know, Like, I don't know, like, have Jay USO find out, like, he's related to Taz or something, which gives him, like, extra strength, and he starts wearing his makeup or something. Like, I don't know. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they. They need to reach deeper than the bloodline, and, I mean, the bloodline was. [00:43:37] Speaker A: Something at least, you know, but they don't do that anymore. They don't even do that anymore. They do nothing. Instead. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Well, there's like, a new bloodline kind of forming, from what I understand with Matt, and they showed it with the Tonga guy. I. There's so many Tongas, I can't keep them straight. But, like, yeah, that will be interesting to see how that happens. And I'm sure at some point, Roman Reigns will come back and be like, I'm the OTC and all this shit. And, yeah, it got kind of wild because at one point it was like, whose tribal chief are you? Even Paul Heyman's tribal chief. He's, like, the only person following you around. Essentially, since I even started watching wrestling, it was really just Paul Heyman and Roman Reigns. But, yeah, that was something. It was an attempt, and that was real throwback. I think that has, like, roots back to the 80s when that original, like, stable or group of guys, like, wrestling together originally formed. [00:44:41] Speaker A: So do you think that El Grande Americano is an attempt to, like, test the waters for more fun characters? [00:44:49] Speaker B: I think so. Oh, you bring up a good point, too. Chad Gable's injured, but El Grande Americano was there. [00:44:59] Speaker A: He was there. [00:45:00] Speaker B: I. You know what was interesting? Do you remember Ludwig Kaiser? [00:45:06] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, he. He actually was in a group with Gunther called Imperium. Yeah. Right before Netflix took off, and they never concluded that group properly. But I see rumors that people now think that Ludwig Kaiser is El Grande Americano. And I was like, really? But I. I do think El Grande Americano is kind of the guy to test those waters. And there's Mr. Iguana, too. Like, we keep hearing about him. He would be really interesting to come on, actually. [00:45:43] Speaker A: He's. He's. He's one of the luchadores. Yeah, they should bring him on. He's amazing. He doesn't just wrestle. Like. He does, like, these amazing moves with his little iguana puppet. He, like, whips you with it. He, like, throws in the air, does a flip and, like, kicks you and then catches the iguana puppet. Like, he's like a superhero. All the luchadores are amazing. Rey Fenix is Cool. Penta is cool. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I. I don't know. The. A lot of them are on Smackdown, too, so it's hard to. [00:46:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't. I don't watch Smackdown either. It's kind of a shame. [00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Well, Matt was talking about, like, if this Netflix deal is going well with Raw, because he said they average just under 3 million viewers a week, and apparently that counts, like, when we watch it after it's live or whatever. That still counts, but they're trying to judge if that's going well. They haven't said if they're happy or not happy yet. So the idea here is, like, if it flops with Raw, we're probably, sadly not going to get Smackdown on Netflix anytime soon. But if it goes well, Matt was saying, like, the contract with Peacock is running out, so maybe, just maybe we'll get all of the content on Netflix finally, which would be great. I think I would like that, personally. Like, being able to watch Smackdown, like, in real time on Netflix or shortly after it's recorded. Yeah. I mean, you get Saturday night main event live, I believe, on Peacock, so that's pretty cool. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:22] Speaker B: But it's a shame, like, they didn't give you Night of Champions Live. That would have been so much fun to watch that Saturday night we were there. But, yeah, I don't know. My takeaway here is. Yeah, I think fun characters like that. Should. We need more fun characters like that, Like, El Grande Americano? Like, it keeps. It keeps the show more humorous, and sometimes it's just, like, more excitement, more drama. Like, who is El Grande Americano? Like, it might not be Chad Gable, I don't know. But, like, they have us. It might all be a misdirection thing. Like, everybody wants you to think it's Chad Gable, but maybe it's not. But it's all. It's all made up at the end of the day anyway. [00:48:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, like, we're watching a TV show and it's fun, you know? So, yeah, what we're talking about is we'd like it to be more fun, is the point, you know? [00:48:23] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:48:24] Speaker A: And we're not just being. And we're not just being boomers who want things to be. Like, when we were little, back in my day, it's more so that, like, we're watching it and it doesn't feel as fun as it used to. [00:48:36] Speaker B: It doesn't. It doesn't. And everybody complains about that. And, like, I. I sent you some way too many clips, but, like, the. The. There Was like, matches like Triple H versus the Rock for the Intercontinental Championship. That wasn't even the main title, but, like, geez, if you brought Triple H or Rock, now, you'd have to make it for, like, the world title. But even back then, like, it was mid card matches with these, like, really good wrestlers or top tier wrestlers. And now it's like, well, I guess they've relegated AJ Styles to the mid card, but. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, you know who really should get a push, actually, now that I think about it? Chad Gable, he actually is legitimately a good wrestler. Like, he's very technically sound. I. I swear, he's like Kurt Angle 2.0. He dresses like him, he runs like him. He used the same move, the ankle lock. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Like, I mean, I was happy when Penta punched him in the face. That was pretty cool. [00:49:40] Speaker B: That was awesome. And now he's injured. [00:49:45] Speaker A: He's very good as El Grande Americano, I will give him that. I like him, but, you know, American Made, I feel. I just feel bad for the rest of them, you know, I can't even name. Well, there's Ivy. I know her. There was. [00:49:59] Speaker B: Yeah. And like, that segment was hilarious. What are we gonna do without you, Chad? And then he's like, ask Ivy. [00:50:07] Speaker A: Ask Ivy. Yeah. He literally says that. It's like, you know, it's like. It's like Professor Xavier, Wolverine and Cyclops are all gone. It's up to you, Jubilee. Like, yeah, okay, great. We're not screwed at all. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Analogy. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I can't. I can't name anybody in American Made other than Chad Gable and Ivy. I wish I could name them. They're just so mysterious to me. [00:50:36] Speaker A: I like that. El Grande Americano is like. He's like a luchadore villain because he keeps trying to take off the other guy's masks. Like, that's funny to me because he's. He's a. He's a fake luchadore. Like, he doesn't respect it at all, you know? [00:50:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. It is funny how he just like, yep, time to take the mask off. That's all. What he's. And you're right, there is that unspoken respect of never take a luchadori's mask off. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Now, I. I do think it's weird, but I think he's more talented than Dom. Is that true? I don't know. [00:51:10] Speaker B: Who. [00:51:11] Speaker A: El Grande Americano. [00:51:13] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. I don't. Dom is just weird. Like, he's not a luchador. Dom. I don't know. He just seems like Rey Mysterio if he just, like, laid on the couch and drank a bunch of beer and smoked weed all day. I don't know. That's just what I get the impression of Dom. Like, he does do the 619 occasionally, and he. But he seems to have copied, like, Eddie Guerrero's moves more like. I'm trying to remember what the move he used. He uses, like, the frog splash, too, occasionally. But, yeah, he's so not luchadore, you know? [00:51:57] Speaker A: You know, he's. You know, he's trying. [00:51:58] Speaker B: He's. [00:51:59] Speaker A: He's. He's trying not to. He doesn't want people to say, you're just your. Your father's son. He wants to be his own man, and I appreciate that, but I would like him a lot more if he put on a mask and he did more incredible moves, because right now, he doesn't stand out to me. Like, he's just, hey, look, I'm one of the wrestling guys, and I'm. And I eat chicken tendies, and I've dated all the. I've in kayfabe, slept with all the women, you know, like. [00:52:26] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Exactly. [00:52:28] Speaker A: Cool story, bro. Like, I don't know. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, they. They gave him the IC title to legitimize him, I suppose, but now what's he doing? Yeah, I. I don't know, man. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Like, when Jey uso had his title, it felt like every day he was defending it, which is, like, amazing. It was very fun to watch. I was enjoying. [00:52:53] Speaker B: Yeah, they did have. They worked. Jey uso. [00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah. With Dom, it just feels like, oh, he has the title. He's the Lord of the universe. Okay, what's next? [00:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think he's defended it once since he won it at WrestleMania. And the hilarious thing is Bron Breakker used to be the IC champion before dominant. That just doesn't add up, but whatever. [00:53:17] Speaker A: Well, maybe after Gunter, you know, Seth Rollins will get serious and he'll have Bron Breaker take the ic. He'll have, you know, I don't know. He'll have Bronson Reed and Bron Breaker take the tag team, you know, and then, like, maybe they'll. They'll do that and everyone will have to team up to, like, defeat them. Who knows? [00:53:36] Speaker B: That would actually be an interesting, like, tag team champion. Johnson Reed and Bron Breaker, the two bronze. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Bronze squared, you know? [00:53:45] Speaker B: Yeah. There's so much championship gold in Judgment Day. Right now. You've got both the men and women's brawl Tag team champions there. And you got Dirty Dom, the IC champion there. Yeah. I guess they could get the women's title. Yeah. Rio's out of that group now, so it would just be her on her own. [00:54:13] Speaker A: We'll see what they do. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Who knows? [00:54:14] Speaker A: I mean, Liv Morgan getting hurt. Really. Really things, but. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Oh, well, yeah, because they were. Yeah, they were going to be stacked, like, with Liv Morgan being the women's champion, too, but. Yeah, I don't know. Roxanne, Raquel, they're champions. It's hard to keep track of Roxanne and Raquel sometimes. I like their. They look totally different, but the two names sound similar, so. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a cardinal sin in fiction, you know, to give your characters the same strong consonant name. You know, it's like you're gonna get the mix up, so. [00:54:46] Speaker B: Exactly. Especially in my aging day. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:51] Speaker B: So. All right. [00:54:53] Speaker A: I guess we should wrap up, So. I don't know. So what are you looking forward to in the coming weeks? Besides for Saturday night main event? [00:55:03] Speaker B: I mean, that is what I am looking forward to. I'll start there. Yeah, I. It's potentially the day before my niece is born. And I even generated, like, weird images of Gunther and Goldberg in suits because that's all it allowed me to do. Like holding a baby in pink. Like, it's like, that would make my day. The winner of the match delivers my niece. I know. I'm thinking of weird ass shit, but, yeah, Goldberg and Gunther, I want to see how they finally put this bad boy to rest. I mean, you're probably right. They're probably gonna just have. I'm gonna say it's like a five, six minute match, though. Like, Gunther will be able to. He could probably sell it up to 10 minutes, but I don't know how much Goldberg has left in his tank to even just stick around and, like, have the, you know, cardiovascular endurance to stay in the match because, geez, he really was sweating bad when he walked down to the ring and back. So that's. That's my main target. How is that going to end? I'm quite curious about the La Knight Seth Rollins match. What are they going to do with that? I kind of think nothing. I think it's just going to be La Knight shows up and annoys Seth Rollins on Raw every night, and the Bronze go to smackdown and antagonize La Knight every once in a while. That's probably all that will happen. What else is on tap? Yeah, I want to see what finally happens with the whole Cena thing. Like, when Are we gonna have him finally lose that? I know we're stuck with him the rest of the year, so I sadly feel like we're gonna be stuck with him as the champion the rest of the year. I wonder how they'll do the whole he takes the belt storyline. It probably won't be very interesting, but. And then I. I would be disappointed if I didn't include this, but evolution. I want to see Rhea finally take out Iyo sky, and I'm quite curious who's gonna win, like, this Royal Rumble Battle Royale thing. That sounds quite intriguing as well. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Yeah. The elimination chamber women's match was crazy, so I'm looking for a repeat of that, you know? [00:57:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:22] Speaker B: Anything else you're looking forward to? Same. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Getting thrown around. A lot of his moves are, like, really hard to do. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker A: So, like, I don't know, maybe they're gonna fumble around under the the set for, like, tables for, like, two minutes. Who knows? Right? [00:58:03] Speaker B: But they might do that, or they might have Goldberg pretend he's, like, concussed for, like, a few minutes while Seth Rollins runs out with the briefcase again. I could see that too. [00:58:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I think there's gonna be some shenanigans I'm looking for. Forward to it. Just because I want to see. I love train wrecks. I love, like, I like to watch the Cats movie because it's bad. Like, I. Yeah. [00:58:25] Speaker B: So I. I like waiting to happen. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I like the Goldberg cringe. It sucks that it interrupted my Jay USO show, but it wasn't that great. So let's be honest, you know? So looking forward to that. Other than that, I mean, I like just watching it, you know? I mean, it's. I mean, at its worst, it's white noise. Not its best. It's pretty fun. [00:58:46] Speaker B: You know, I couldn't have said that better myself. At its worst, it's white noise, and it's pretty fun. At its best. Sometimes it could be really fun if we, you know, did more of the things you were talking about, like having someone kind of appear like the Undertaker. I mean, you can't replicate that again. But no unique entrance. [00:59:06] Speaker A: I think Rusev his, like, spooky promos. Rusev and El Grande Americano and a bit of Asuka. I think they're kind of, like, edging towards that kind of stuff. But, you know, with her amazing oni face paint, like, more of that plays, you know, I mean, I'll take anything at this point, so we'll see. I mean, you know, I mean, honestly, I think we have to get through this year. [00:59:28] Speaker B: So, yeah, you got to get through this year because of Cena. [00:59:32] Speaker A: Because of stupid fucking Cena. Maybe after. Maybe after Cena dies, like, maybe after Cena's story is over, something ridiculous will happen. Maybe Roman Reigns will get done filming the Street Fighter movie and we'll have the bloodline face off against Seth Rollins. Legion of Doom. I don't know. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Well, that's interesting that you say that. Like, with the Street Fighter movie, how is it that Cody can stick around but Roman Reigns can't? That almost is like, maybe a spoiler that he's going to lose to Cena in SummerSlam. I mean, I'm expecting it, sadly, that Cena will just keep winning until the end. [01:00:10] Speaker A: Maybe they're gonna shoot his scenes later. Who knows? I don't know anything about movies. I don't know anything about the Street Fighter movie. I just know he's playing Guile, who is sometimes a main character. He's the main character in the old Street Fighter movie, but that's just because it's an American movie, you know. Well, it's Jean Claude Van Damme, by the way. Yeah, man, he sucked. [01:00:32] Speaker B: I don't know much about how they do the filming of the movies either, but I know that every time the Rock was filming, that bastard would disappear for ages. And I would expect no less of Roman Reigns. He will disappear for ages. He just has that personality. But Cody, I don't know if he'll disappear for ages. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Well, the Rock. The Rock was usually headlining a movie. I don't think Guile is a main character like that. I think it's okay. We're kind of roll. Also, Roman, I don't know. Street Modern Street Fighter Akuma is a newer character, relatively. I think he might be the main villain, so. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, kiss him goodbye. [01:01:10] Speaker A: Kiss him goodbye. Exactly. Yeah, he'll come back eventually, but when he's good and ready. Which sucks because, you know, could use some of that Roman Reigns magic right now, but. [01:01:21] Speaker B: Well, yeah, well, I'm looking Forward to Saturday, July 12, Main Event. [01:01:29] Speaker A: Main event. [01:01:31] Speaker B: I can't wait. Yeah, I don't know how I'll watch it unless I go to your house, but. [01:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, come over and watch Saturday night. Main event. You know, maybe Peter will drive everyone up here. [01:01:42] Speaker B: I don't. I don't think he will because of his work schedule, but. Yeah, maybe you can twist his arm enough to somehow do it. [01:01:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, maybe, Maybe. All right, well, that's lowbrow. Watch wrestling and read comics or you suck. [01:01:59] Speaker B: Yes, I couldn't agree more. Hire me for coding work. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Yeah, Greg. Yeah, Greg. Greg needs work. His. His stuff is down below. I'm the editor of Death Wish Poetry magazine. Do check. Do check that out below. Also, check out my professional writing website, demonlandbooks.com. that's about that. We'll be back next week, most likely, to talk about, well, Saturday night, main event, right? [01:02:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Goldberg's funeral. [01:02:27] Speaker A: Goldberg's funeral. [01:02:29] Speaker B: All right, take care, everybody.

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