[00:00:00] Speaker A: The real question is, you know, do you think Goldberg could beat the Fantastic Four? On that note, welcome to Lowbrow. I'm Daniel. You might know me as King Loki. I also edit Death Wish Poetry magazine. I'm your host here. We talk about comic books and wrestling because they're fucking awesome, and if you don't like them, get the fuck out. With me are my co hosts, Greg, Chris and Matt. What's up, guys?
[00:00:21] Speaker B: Hey, Dan. Hey, everybody.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: There you go, there you go, There you go. So, yeah, I think that the point being is that it doesn't do the brand any favors having their shows fractured like this, you know? No, it doesn't do them any favors. Matt, do you have. Do you have any thoughts before we move on to the Goldberg Cringe?
[00:00:37] Speaker C: No, no, I. I agree. I. I don't think it does it any favors whatsoever.
And I will say I do think that WWE right now is in a transitional period when it comes to, like, where some content is going to end up. Their Peacock deal is going to end, I think, like, February next year.
So within the next few months. And by few, I mean, like, by the end of this year, we should know where, like, if they're going to resign with Peacock, or. The rumor is, is that, like, Netflix might be interested in acquiring everything that's on Peacock, and if that's the case, then at least we'll get, like, the ples and whatnot back into. Into the same place as Raw.
But it's all going to depend on money. And. And that's kind of the. The worry that a lot of people who want to watch everything has. You know, like, if, like, let's say, for example, prime is like, hey, here's a bajillion dollars. We want your library. And please, like, why would WWE say no? Because they're just worried about money. Which is, again, I said it before their business. That's what their goal is, is to make as much money as possible. Right? So, yeah. So I don't think. Listen, I don't think WWE is struggling. I don't think that they're going to, you know, ever, ever, ever close, you know, or anything like that. I don't think, you know, what we need to worry about w going anywhere, but I do worry about the future sometimes, because, you know, in today's world, where, like, you know, it's like, content kind of has to be as digestible as possible to continue to keep people interested. We're now living in a world where, like, kids don't have, like, you know, an attention Span more than like 15 minutes, you know, and like for them. Well, yeah, but you know, Greg, you have, you have an excuse. Like even, even kids today who like don't have ADHD don't the best attention span, you know. So like, for them, they don't, they don't even care to look to find like, like, Dan, you were saying, like you were googling where to watch WrestleMania. Today's kids won't even Google. They're just like, ah, I don't know where it is. Screw it, you know.
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:40] Speaker C: So like, they need to be careful because another thing that's happening too, and this is, this could be a whole nother video. Feel free to cut this, but like, prices for WWE shows are just like through the roof now.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: I've seen that. Yeah.
[00:02:51] Speaker C: So like, families are not going. It's just kind of like, you know, people who can afford it and the people who can afford it not always like families with two, three kids. So like, like, I'm worried that kids are not enjoying wrestling anymore. And therefore, like, you know, it's a very cyclical business. If you're not getting kids to watch, then they're not going to watch for like the next 15, 20 years. You know, like, I started watching as a kid and I never gave it up, you know, Greg and Dan, like, you guys watched it probably as kids, took a break, came back to it, you know. Yep. But you need, you need to have kid exposure in order for them to either continue it or come back to it. Right. And if they're not being exposed to it at a younger age, then they're never going to pick it back up, you know.
So, you know, I think there's a lot of worry as to like where it's going in the future, but I do know it's not going to go away. It's just going to be like, who's going to watch it and how and when and where.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Exactly. I completely agree with you there, Matt.
[00:03:48] Speaker A: What's in a tough spot for sure.
But yeah, I mean, it sounds like a lot of its licensing and maybe they'll get that figured out. I mean, the WWE streaming service was a good idea at the time. I thought it was pretty stupid because it's like, come on, what are you asking for $10 a month to watch wrestling. But hey, you know, I mean, as someone who is watching it regularly now, I mean, like, I pay for that. You know, I like the stuff. I think it's fun.
[00:04:10] Speaker B: I'm too cheap. I don't think I'd pay for it, but that's a separate thing.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: There is a customer. You know, that's the thing.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. There's many customers, I'm sure.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: I mean, having said that, it's probably a good. You know, it's probably a good thing that they. They interrupted their story to bring Goldberg in at the last minute.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah, put. Put everything. Yeah. Screw Jay uso's title reign. Probably potentially screw Gunther's title reign. I've. I've heard some interesting takes on that, but. Yeah. Dan, let's. Let's hear what you have to say about Gunther Goldberg.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: You know, we were talking about it. I think you were like, how do you think they're gonna work it in? And I'm like, he's just gonna come out to his music, and that's gonna be it.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And he did.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: He did. He did. He did. I. I wasn't sure what was happening, and then, like. Like, Justin was on his phone, and I'm like, justin, you're missing Goldberg. He just walked out. Grandpa was sweating, just walking into the, you know, ring. And I. Look, I felt bad. I mean, it's hard to watch, like, you know, the Undertaker, like, his last few matches, right? But, like, he's still the Undertaker. He's great, you know? And you like him, like, even when he's wearing the thin blue line shirt in his little documentaries, it's like, I don't care about that. Whatever. You live in Texas. Who cares? You're the Undertaker, you know, I don't care about your political opinions. Goldberg comes out, and it's like, oh, no, no.
[00:05:30] Speaker C: And he's.
[00:05:30] Speaker A: He's screaming in Gunther's face. He's, like, spitting in his face.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: My gosh. Yeah.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: He's like, you started it. You know, and then he goes, like, I only have one thing to say to you. You're mine, because you're next. The Gunther's just like. Like, you know, this motherfucker's thinking, like, okay, speed bump in my career. Just get through it. It's okay. I'm the man. Everyone loves me or hates me or loves to hate me and blah, blah, blah. Everyone's got to do it. Everyone's got to have an old man yell up, though, here and there. I. I personally, like. I like the trash, generally speaking. I like when it goes super low brow. But, like, the problem with Goldberg was kind of kayfabe, where. Yeah, it's just bad. Like, it's not like. It's not like, you know, Seth Rollins came out, and he. He had the Hulk look on his face. And then CM Punk came out and was like, no, it was Cody Rhodes. Cody Rhodes just like. Like, that was all fake as. Or Liv Morgan, where she's like, telling eo sky, can I just have your title? And IO's like, you want it? You want it? Here you go. And then she does a Power Rangers kick and knocks her down.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: I love that.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: That's amazing. That's what I'm here for. Goldberg coming out and, I don't know, showing his feathers one more time, it's made me feel bad for everyone involved, especially him.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah. But I guess I feel like it's kind of annoying. It's like, what does we even owe to Goldberg? Like, when I think of Goldberg, I think of a WCW guy. He's in the WWE hall of Fame, I guess, because they acquired wcw, they gave him. He might have been World Heavyweight Champion a couple of times. Not. Not like, in pretty ways. I know he had the matches with Triple H, I think, at some point, but was very lackluster. Like, that whole segment was just three minutes of cringe. Like, it was just like, I. I knew Seth Rollins wasn't coming out, actually, when he was doing that whole thing, because it's pretty clear. Like, the. To me, at least, the path is shifting. Shifting for Seth to go for John Cena's title in some mix. And they're just. They're just, like, holding. Well, I guess you could say they're holding John Cena's title hostage or the WWE title hostage for John Cena, but now they're holding the damn World Heavyweight title hostage for freaking Goldberg for at least a month or a few weeks, I guess, at this point.
And it's. It's just like, why? Like, it's like you had to mess up all these storyline, and I think you can recover from it fairly easily. But it's just like, I don't know, like, Goldberg seems like that kid that's like, I want to ride the ride one more time, Mommy. And, like. And you have to, like, let him ride the ride. Like, I don't. I don't know what they owe Goldberg. Maybe they're. I guess they're making a hell of a lot of money off of this, otherwise they wouldn't do it. But it feels like they think they owe Goldberg something. Like, yeah, you owe the Undertaker that stuff, but you don't. And we don't want to see Undertaker probably wrestle anymore right now, but we definitely don't want to see Goldberg wrestle anything.
And it feels like they think they owe this Guy something. And, yeah, I. I don't know. It was a very lackluster segment. And I'll add one more note before I hand the floor off. Gunther definitely didn't want to be there. And if you read the Reddit, like, posts on this stuff, it was like. Is like, Gunther is just, like, thinking, say it. Don't spray it the whole time. Because, like, Goldberg is, like, spitting in his face, and you see, like, Gunther, like, cringing, like, turning away, like, like, trying to avoid the spit, like, and he's. He's just like, I really have to do this. He did not want anything to do with it. It was. It was hilarious. But, yeah, I'll hand the floor off.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that was a good summation, Greg.
[00:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Because before I watched Raw, it was all over Reddit and I was like, oh, this happen. I hope this doesn't happen at Raw. And it did.
[00:09:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's definitely clowned on. Definitely being memed on. I don't know, Matt, I'm gonna assume you have some deep thoughts about this.
[00:09:32] Speaker C: Well, my thing is this. I have no issue whatsoever if Goldberg wants one last match. You know, Listen, I don't think WWE necessarily, necessarily owes him things, but I do think the industry does. He did come in at a time where things were a little bit down for both WCW and wwe, and he went on that big streak, and he basically took down the NWO back in WCW and did huge business for that show in Atlanta. And, you know, he. He did become a megastar. And don't get me wrong, you know, a lot of people dislike Goldberg, you know, or dislike them, you know, at the time, too. Behind the scenes, you know, he wasn't the most humble guy in the world. He kind of just felt like he deserved it but didn't earn it, you know, necessarily. But you can't deny that, you know, fans loved him for. For a time. So him getting one final match, to me, that's fine. But my issue with this whole thing is that he's getting one final match by disrupting things and going for a title. And to be honest with you, when you are Goldberg's age, wrestling your final match, you don't need to do it, you know, going for. For a major championship. I would have even been fine if it was against Gunther, but, you know, I don't. I feel like everything kind of got just kind of, you know, cut off with whatever was going on with Jey uso. I think that this whole thing.
Very disrespectful to the likes of A Jay uso, the likes of a CM Punk, the likes of a Seth Rollins, Cody Rhodes. They all have some major awesome storylines going where they're trying to hunt for a main event, for a championship to get back to the glory. And Goldberg just kind of comes in and botches his own catchphrase and gets a title shot. You know, he did watch the catch. So, you know, like, my. The only solace that I'm taking in this is that it is his final match. And after July 12, I'm hoping to kind of never see him in a wrestling. Wrestling ring again. I don't mind if he appears as, like, a talking head in an interview or, you know, documentary. But, like, I just really, really hope that he stays true to his word and this is truly his final match. And I hope that WWE doesn't contract. Yeah. And, you know, WWE is now advertising it as his final match, which I think is good to see. Obviously, in wrestling, it's always like, never say never. Wrestlers retire all the time and then come back. People do it all the time. I told. I said to myself that I would never coach basketball again, and next year, I'm taking over the middle school team. So here we go. But, yeah, people retire all the time and come back and do things. But honestly, for now, I'm going to take it at face value. You know, my only hope is, is that, you know, Gunther does his job and, you know, makes Goldberg look like a million bucks and then makes them tap out. You know, simple as that.
[00:12:08] Speaker B: Yeah, let's hope so. But I have this weird fear that I've seen this other scenario where they give Goldberg the title and then they just vacate it. I. I'm also okay with that, because I don't know that title. It is the second man's fiddle. I still think it's weird that it's Raw's title. Raw's the A list show. Smackdown's a B list show. But smackdown technically has the A list title because that has the lineage. SmackDown's WWE title. Now the World Heavyweight Title. I guess it makes sense to have Goldberg go for that, because if you look at Goldberg's shirt, it says Goldberg's last Ride. And I was curious to look at it in more detail, but. And I'll share the image with you guys, but if you look at it, it's. He's in a car, he's in his wrestling attire, and he's holding the old WCW title. I know technically the World Heavyweight title doesn't have the lineage even from that, because this Title came around in like 2022, 2023, because raw needed a title. That's all the only reason it came around. But I guess you could argue it has a closer tie to the title that Goldberg was chasing back in wcw. Because I remember Eric Bischoff. I know I keep telling Dan he would have loved this guy. The Raw general manager back in like 2002 through 2004. And he was also WCW with WCW before it got acquired by wwe. But he brought back that World Heavyweight title to Raw and he's like, okay, that's our title. Now that smackdown took the undisputed championship. And so I could see why Gunther would come challenged for raw's title from a historical perspective, even though it's not a direct lineage. Now. I think he specifically wanted Gunther. From what you said, Matt, like in the football show, he wanted to challenge Gunther. I don't know why he wanted Gunther specifically. Like, their wrestling styles are completely like total polar opposites. I know Gunther can make anyone look good. I'm just really curious how it's going to work with Goldberg. Because like with Goldberg you can only really do a squash match, like where it's a quick hitter, like a two minute thing where, you know, he spears a couple of times, maybe he hits a jackhammer. He just shows his brutal strength. And that could be like one way that Gunther goes down. But I, yeah, I don't know. You have a very good technical wrestler versus like a just brute heavy strength guy who probably isn't even that strong anymore because he can't work out anymore. He said so. It's really interesting. But yeah, I'd love to hear your takes on that from both of you.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: Matt, you take the lead here.
[00:15:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I, for me, like, the difference in styles for me is like never an issue. Just because I think styles make matchups and you know, like, I think I think back to the days of like Bret Hart taking on like Diesel. And Diesel was, you know, listen, I love Kevin Nash, but like he wasn't the strongest wrestler, right? But he was a phenomenal, phenomenal character. And just like this big dude that looked great. But Bret Hart made him look like a good wrestler because Bret Hart, you know, just, you know, figured out a way to, you know, work around his strengths. You know, I think that gun Gunther is going to do his best to kind of do the same with Goldberg. My issue is like, Gunther does a really good job of making people look good because they take his pain, right? Like Sami Zayn, right, looked phenomenal against Gunther because Sami Zayn can take a beating, right? Seth Rollins looks phenomenal against Gunther because, Sam, Seth Rollins can take a beating. Jey uso. Same thing, right, Goldberg? I don't think he wants to get chopped, right? I don't think he wants to get punched, you know, and like, don't get me wrong, the goal is not to hurt each other, right? To peel. To peel the cape. Kayfabe behind away. But, you know, Gunther does lay his chops in to make it as hard as possible. I'm pretty sure Goldberg doesn't want to stand there and take 20 chops, you know, so, like, you know, Greg, you make a good point. Like, how is this going to work? Because for Gunther to do his job and make Goldberg look good, Goldberg has to take a beating, you know, so to get like 8, 10 minutes out of this, he's going to have to be down on the mat a little bit and taking some chops. And I don't know if he's willing to do that or not. So it will be interesting. The good news is it is on Saturday night's main event and they're going to probably load up that show as much as possible. So nobody ever expects like a 20, 30 minute match on that show. So, you know, I do expect it to go like in a 20 minute match.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: No way.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: No. I mean, I've seen it before. It's not pretty. It's.
[00:16:54] Speaker B: And that was in his prime.
[00:16:56] Speaker C: And that was in his prime. Yeah, it was in his prime. So, yeah, I. Listen, I. I don't think. I don't think this is going to be pretty. I don't think it's designed to be pretty, though. I think it's designed just to kind of give Goldberg his last few mutants and hopefully we move on from it as unski this possible.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Go ahead, Greg. Go ahead. Go right ahead, my friend.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: I apologize.
I guess my main question is, so why Gunther? Like, did Goldberg want Gunther specifically? Or did they say, hey, if you want this match, it has to be against Gunther?
[00:17:26] Speaker C: So I like to call this the Marvel effect because this has been set up for like the last year and a half to the point where, like, I actually don't really remember the catalyst for it. And I'm the guy who watches everything on this show.
So, like, I just, I think if I can remember correctly, I think maybe it started with like Gunther just using Goldberg's name, right? And Goldberg took umbrage to it and decided like, hey, if you're gonna. If you're gonna use my name, then when I eventually come Back, you know, seven years from now, then I'm gonna come get you, you know, and you're next. And that's kind of what happened, you know, now I'm butchering his catchphrase. So I. I'm pretty sure, like, Gunther just kind of like, plant. Like, he was told to, like, plant the seed by, like, using Goldberg's name, like, in a promo. And then Goldberg, like, took umbrage with it. And then when he decided that he's going to come back, he focused on Gunther. And it just so happens that Gunther has that title now. So, you know, it just kind of. Yeah, works out.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. That probably was the main catalyst of Gunther was antagonizing him. And then they had that fake bit in Atlanta, Georgia, where he was antagonizing Gage, his son. And. Yeah, I. Yeah, I mean, the storyline is okay. The execution. Last week, like, I. It was terrible, but it was hilarious at the same time. Like, it's just like this three minute, like, crappy promo, but, like, I can't stop talking about it. And, like, I got a little buzz the other night, and I just couldn't stop doing you're next. Like, it was just so much fun. So I. Who knows? Maybe people are getting carried away like that too, with it, but, yeah, that makes sense. Matt, thanks for clarifying why it's Gunther. And I think, yeah, the title tying in and the. The other championship is really crowded right now. And ironically, the World Heavyweight Championship was going to be crowded until all this Goldberg noise came back. And now it's just like, yep, we're rolling out the red carpet for Goldberg. But, yeah, I. I don't want to take away from Dan's floor time here, so I apologize. But one other question, and maybe, Dan, you could start with this, but do you think that they'll let Goldberg win and they just vacate that title? Because I. I don't think that is, like, yes, it's a prestigious title because it's one of the two main championships of the WWE and the men's division. But, like, it's only got a lineage of a couple of years. Do you think they're just like, okay, Bill, take the title from Goldberg, vacate it, and then everybody goes after John Cena now, or they do something on, and like, then it's like a floating champion like they used to do back in the day? Or do you think it's going to be like, they let him, they get it vacated, then they have, like, Jey. USO and Gunther fight it out for the Championship or have some tournament for the Raw championship. I'm curious to see how you think this will all play out. And obviously, if Gunther wins, then it squashes all of this, too.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: All right, well, so first off, I want to see if I can make this two episodes and have them both out by Monday, because we're going a little long, and I don't want to cut it, so. Yeah. But, yeah, on that topic, honestly, I've been reading a lot about how, like, look, Gunther is this awesome character, and Goldberg. Look, Goldberg came up in a time when, like, we had all kinds of exciting characters. We had characters with plastic spikes and face paint, and he was just a guy, and I think that was his appeal. Nowadays, everyone's just a guy.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:21:06] Speaker A: Seth Rollins comes out dressed like Michael Jackson. You have a couple Dores. You have Rhea, Ripley, and whatever. Like, all these. You have a couple characters that explode, especially in the women's division. I mean, we didn't get to Asuka because we were talking about Marvel movies. But, like, my point is that, like, Goldberg does not pop the same way, you know?
Yeah. Like, old, like us are like, look, it's Goldberg, you know, but, like, these kids, like, yeeting and, like, you know, cheering for Sami Zayn and stuff, and I know they've been around for a minute, but I'm just saying, like, Goldberg is not part of this ecosystem. He doesn't go, in my opinion. And, like. Like, whatever appeal he had, I mean, it's not there. So I think that Gunther being this, like, look, I think that's what they're gonna go for. I think it's his job to. Yeah, as. As Matt said, make him look good and give him his final match, you know, and, like, be a sacrificial lamp ultimately for Gunter. And, I mean, that's how I see it going. I don't see a mad scrabble for the title. That doesn't make any sense. It's annoying that this storyline with Jey USO and Seth Rollins and all that stuff, because I. I've been enjoying it. I've been enjoying the little factions. It's really fun to watch, you know?
[00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Maybe we'll get back to it, you know, now that, like, Gunter has the. Has the title, but who knows? Matt, what are your thoughts on Goldberg?
[00:22:25] Speaker C: No, I. I agree. I think that's. Or at least that's what I'm hoping they go with it. You know, I. I do think that it just kind of just doesn't make sense to the overall story of WWE right now for Goldberg to take the title. So I think it's best for them to just give him his final movement moment, move on, and then, you know, do like a. Not a hard reset, but there's enough story there to kind of continue. You know, they have the King of the Ring tournament going on at Night of Champions. Just be like, all right, you know, Goldberg's gone. Whoever's next is next, and that's that. And Goldberg have. Have fun in retirement.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: It's definitely the easiest storyline to pull off. And, like, you really.
If you have Gunther beat Goldberg, you really haven't lost a lot. Yeah, you sacrifice Jey Uso's reign. But, like, to be honest, like, I agree with you guys and everybody else for the most part. Maybe some people will say Jey USO should be, like, a defender, but I think he's better as a chaser, like you alluded to before.
And, I mean, so he got his day in the sun, and then it's gonna be Gunther. Assuming he squashes Goldberg. I mean, he won't. It will be interesting to see that match, like, what angle they take, if it's a quick hitter, or they just try to make Gunther, have him look good for a few more minutes than he could usually go. But, yeah, I. I think that's probably the best storyline. Just have Gunther beat him, and then, yeah, he'll brag about it for a week or two, and everything goes back to normal, essentially.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: And there you go. You're next, fucking Goldberg. A Goldberg story.
[00:24:03] Speaker C: You're next.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: So, on that note, anything further to say about what's going down?
[00:24:08] Speaker B: I've done a lot of talking, so I'll hand the floor off, but I have a few things.
[00:24:12] Speaker C: I have nothing. Just, you know, I just hope people are watching as much wrestling as possible. WWE and beyond.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: We haven't done our plugs, so we can't wrap up yet. Greg, what do you got?
[00:24:21] Speaker C: I saw.
[00:24:21] Speaker A: Nah, you're cool.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, I think we talked a little bit about the Raw segment with Liv asking for the title. It was funny.
I still don't know why Dirty Dom is promoted as much as he is, but I loved yo poking fun at him, you know, getting rough with him.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Kicking him in the face.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And then eventually, the sad part in all of this is I really wonder how the women's division will play out now. I mean, yeah, you have the Queen of the Ring or Knight of the Champions. That's how it will probably play out. But the whole, like, Liv getting injured later in the night was pretty depressing, I thought. Like, there's so much other stuff going on. It's not really talked about a lot.
So I wonder how that will play out with Judgment Day and, you know, the women's division in general. And how is Raquel going to defend the tag team titles now? Like, are they going to need a different partner to step it? I don't know if they've done that or. It doesn't seem like they really were building that storyline up much anyway. They're just like, yeah, we're champion.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: I mean, they can't really. They can let Roxanne Perez step in and then that creates.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Oh, there you go.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be cool.
[00:25:36] Speaker B: She's in the Queen of the Ring tournament herself, I think. I think she's still alive. I'm not sure.
[00:25:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head there, Dan. I think that's the best way to do it. Have Roxanne fill in and then that just furthers the issues between Liv and Roxanne once Live does get back.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:25:53] Speaker C: It looks like again, I'm crazy. So I watch everything. Yesterday on YouTube, they had like a SummerSlam kickoff preview show on YouTube from this from the fanatics fest, and it looked like they're hinting at, like, doing Becky lynch versus Nikki Bella to kind of replace Liv Morgan. It looks like they're trying to do, like, a little veer off the original path. But yeah, you know, Greg, you made a good point. Like, we talk so much about everything. Like, Liv Morgan's injury really does, like, hurt and it messes up a lot of stuff in the women's division. You know, it sucks to see too, and it sucks to hear, you know, something I don't really talk about too much, but Liv Morgan and I are from the same exact hometown.
[00:26:32] Speaker A: What?
[00:26:33] Speaker C: Yeah. So, like, hearing Elmwood Park, New Jersey, every single week on RAW is like, so just makes me smile because that's my hometown. It's where I grew up. I went back and even taught there for 10 years. So, like, just. Just, you know, seeing Liv do amazing things, you know, I don't know Liv Morgan, I'm eight years older than her, so our. Our path never crossed. But just the fact that she's legitimately from Elmwood park, that's not like a, you know, storyline made up thing. When she does interviews, she talks about all the best pizza places in Elmwood park and she's not lying. So for me, seeing her get hurt like this when she's basically, like, doing her Best work is tough to see.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It. That was a depressing injury. And I. I haven't witnessed as many injuries in wrestling. I mean, looking back, like, the whole CTE thing wasn't as big when I was watching Wrestle. I mean, obviously it still existed, duh. But it. The. The media draw to it and like, the attention given to it wasn't there back then. But yeah, I don't recall.
Like, I. At one point I couldn't tell what were real injuries and what weren't. Obviously the one injury that comes to me right off the bat that was real. Like, I just keep thinking of Brock Lesnar's botched shooting star press on Kurt Angle in that one WrestleMania where he got a concussion and. But like this, it was pretty obvious right away. Like, her injury was really legitimate and could be out like six months or something, I read. So, yeah, it's depressing and. But you see it all the time in like other. I. It was a pretty depressing injury I don't recall seeing and at least since I started watching again a real injury like that since watching the first episode of Raw on Netflix.
So, yeah, kind of a bad.
[00:28:31] Speaker C: Don't Google cycle said WCW leg injury or do if you like to watch gross stuff.
[00:28:38] Speaker B: Well, I mean, yeah, that's. That's bad. But is it worse that since you watch sports, is it worse than Alex Smith's leg injury or Joe Theisman's leg injury or that one dad Prescott guy?
[00:28:51] Speaker C: Yes, same. Same. Ish. Depending on how you feel, possibly worse. Kind of like Gordon Hayward from the Celtics, if you remember that.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I heard of it. Yeah, it's a dang Matt. You would. You would like this guy Nick that I know. He watches like every single sport and he's really into wrestling. Think you guys could just talk like for days about this stuff? But yeah, I. I don't watch as much basketball as I would have liked. I know the big game seven is tonight, but I heard about the Gordon Hayward injury back in the day. But yeah, injuries are such a shame. And it was really bad to see what happened to live and. Yeah. And then after that I was hoping Big Bronson Reed was going to advancing. I kind of would like to see like that. Like, I didn't like Seth that much until recently, but Paul being with them, I'd like to see like, those guys just kind of collect titles and rule the WWE for like at least a few months to a year. That would be kind of fun.
[00:29:54] Speaker C: Great.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: I think the blood is apparently going strong, but yeah, yeah, it's a shame that we didn't get to see that. I mean, I guess it was pretty obvious, like it was going to be Jay USO that won that match or it was going to be big Bronson Reed. I mean, that was kind of like the second guy I would have gone with. So we're going to get to see tomorrow Cody taking on Jey USO for who gets the right to take on RKO in the King of the ring final.
[00:30:24] Speaker A: Yeah, I think, though, I think they'll give it to Jey uso. I think they, they want him to, you know.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Oh, really? Over. Well, I guess Cody's also had a long time in the sun, but let's be honest, Cody's a much better wrestler than Jay.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: Well, no Sherlock. I mean, Jay USO is just Jey uso. I mean, you know, like, we love Jay USO here, but come on, I.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Mean, you know, right? Yeah, I, I know. Yeah. I, I don't know. Like, he's grown on me, but I think at some point, like the yeeting and all that stuff will get. Will become dull to me. It was dull in the beginning and then it grew on me. It might just be a roller coaster. I wonder if that's gonna be his gimmick or will he reunite with Jimmy. And Jimmy's now getting into the, like, fighting solo and standing up for Jacob on smackdown. I saw that happen. So I'm interested to see what will happen with the USO's and Cody. And yeah, there's a lot going on.
[00:31:20] Speaker A: Frustrating, but, you know, there are some similarities, as always. But yeah, on that note, you know, read, read comics and watch as much wrestling as possible because these things are great. These things are fantastic. And I am speaking of which, speaking of superheroes, I am looking forward to the new Superman movie. So, you know, it'll be nice to be able to talk about DC comics like, you know, movies again without sighing and sadness, you know.
So, yeah, as we wrap up, I am Daniel. I, you know, I edit Death Wish Poetry magazine. Visit that, check it out. Follow us on Instagram, you know, at Deathwish Underscore Poetry, my personal writing site where I list all. Where, you know, where I have all my books listed. And my professional writing is
[email protected] Matt, of course, writes for PWInsider.com Matt, do you want to tell us about your writing?
[00:32:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I do the reports for some weekly shows. I do on Tuesday, nwa, Wednesday, Evolve. Thursday, TNA and Ring of Honor. Friday I do TNA Explosion and Then tonight LFG is debuting season two of for WWE on A E. So I do the report for that as well. And then every once in a while I'll do like a little editorial too. So I've also recently started doing audio for them once a week. So if you want to hear more of my thoughts. That's behind the paywall unfortunately. But feel free to pay. I don't get any of the money but you can pay them and listen to my horrible voice.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Your voice is great. Greg is of course looking for work. He is a coder, worked at Microsoft. Hire this man. He is looking for a full time fucking job. He's very good. Greg, you want to talk about your work?
[00:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So right now I'm a freelance developer. My GitHub is out. Dan released it but yeah just doing some freelance work right now. So I have time on my hands to do projects for you or be hired full time. Either way works for me. But obviously getting some some medical benefits and dental would be good if I could find more stable full time work. I bring a very creative perspective to development. I'm more outside your corporate box. Yeah. If you want some non corporation guy to come in even to your corporation and give you a different take, feel free to reach out to me. See my GitHub. So yeah, I'd be more than happy to talk to you about your take development needs.
[00:33:39] Speaker A: Yep. Links to all these things below. Keep it low brow.
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